Pakistan Park Attack Targeting Christians Kills 65, Mostly Children

[taco.vidal]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=37965141

Mar 27, 2016, 5:33 PM ET

The death toll has climbed to 65 after a suicide bomber attacked a busy park in Lahore, Pakistan, where Christians were celebrating Easter. Most of the dead are children, officials said.

[oilyfan]

F****** Cowards

[Regulator75]

Posted here a while ago.

Sick f#cks.

[blankall]

You'd hope an attack this senseless would just cause this group to lose support. I can see how attacking American or military targets might be seen as legitimate warfare. This however is just murder of the most monstrous kind.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by blankall

You'd hope an attack this senseless would just cause this group to lose support. I can see how attacking American or military targets might be seen as legitimate warfare. This however is just murder of the most monstrous kind.

This group has done similar things for years and their support is continuously falling. Few from Pakistan support this Taliban group at all (considering they constantly target Pakistanis).

This murder is no more monstrous than what US drone ware fare has been guilty of though (if you're the mother of father of a dead little boy or girl), which is why it's not hard to see why some people support a prime enemy of the US.

[chubeyr1]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

This group has done similar things for years and their support is continuously falling. Few from Pakistan support this Taliban group at all (considering they constantly target Pakistanis).

This murder is no more monstrous than what US drone ware fare has been guilty of though, which is why it's not hard to see why some people support a prime enemy of the US.

What? So your saying American drones are sent into countries to kill children playing in a park?

You are saying this is the same thing? I cant believe you are actually trying to justify this.

[CliffFletcher]

I'm shocked to learn Pakistani Christians publicly celebrate Easter. That takes remarkable courage.

I understand that the real front lines of the struggle is between is between moderate Muslims and violent radicals. And I keep waiting for the moderates to reject and denounce the radicals in a meaningful way. But in Brussels and elsewhere, the radicals continue to find refuge and protection in the broader Muslim community. They aren't identified and turned in to police. ntil that happens, until those terrorists hiding out are routinely turned in to authorities by their neighbours and brother-in-laws, I'll remain skeptical the moderate Muslims are willing to put their money where their mouth is in this struggle.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by chubeyr1

What? So your saying American drones are sent into countries to kill children playing in a park?

You are saying this is the same thing? I cant believe you are actually trying to justify this.

No and no and no. Obviously.

EDIT: no more detail than that needed.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

This murder is no more monstrous than what US drone ware fare has been guilty of though, which is why it's not hard to see why some people support a prime enemy of the US.

The US could kill a thousand Muslim children a day, every day of the year, if that's what they wanted to do. If the Taliban or ISIS could kill a thousand Christian children a day, every day of the year, they wouldn't hesitate to do so. You honestly don't see a difference between those two stances?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The US could kill a thousand Muslim children a day, every day of the year, if that's what they wanted to do. If the Taliban or ISIS could kill a thousand Christian children a day, every day of the year, they wouldn't hesitate to do so . You honestly don't see a difference between those two stances?

You honestly think a comparison of the human impact of bombings from two different factions is the same as a comparison of the ideologies and intentions of those two factions? Interesting.

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

And I keep waiting for the moderates to reject and denounces in the radicals in a meaningful way.

Could you elaborate with your personal definition?

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by chubeyr1

What? So your saying American drones are sent into countries to kill children playing in a park?

You are saying this is the same thing? I cant believe you are actually trying to justify this.

The Americans did purposefully kill a wack of people, many of them children, by administering fake polio vaccinations while collecting DNA evidence in Pakistan. Is that the same thing? A little neater and cleaner but definitely not as quick.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You honestly think a comparison of the human impact of bombings from two different factions is the same as a comparison of the ideologies and intentions of those two factions? Interesting.

... What?

You are the one who made the comparison between US military action abroad and this incident. He was specifically saying they weren't comparable. How can you say the two are equally monstrous - which you did - and completely discount the role of intention and ideology?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Could you elaborate with your personal definition?

Denouncing imams who preach violence. Reporting young people who succumb to radical propaganda. Not harbouring or allowing friends and family to harbour radicals. Basically, eschewing any solidarity with radicals simply because they share the same religion or ethnicity.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

The first one on the list is really the kicker, particularly in Europe. The variance in content from mosque to mosque is, by all accounts, quite something. Within a quick jog of one another you'll find a mosque that for all intents and purposes is indistinguishable from your average suburban Anglican church, and another that's straight out of the 7th century.

[WCW Nitro]

I spent some of my childhood in this city, what's strange is that this is a public park so even on a Christian holiday, the park would be mostly Muslims considering Christians make up at most 2% of the city's population. In any case, it's a horrific attack and what's truly sad is when I was there no one attacked you because of your religion but now minorities are increasingly under attack.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

... What?

You are the one who made the comparison between US military action abroad and this incident. He was specifically saying they weren't comparable. How can you say the two are equally monstrous - which you did - and completely discount the role of intention and ideology?

"Oh, someone quoted me.... wonder who it... oh"

I didn't make that general comparison. I made the comparison between this attack and US drone strikes in Pakistan, because both have resulted in innocent women and children being killed in high numbers. My comparison was directly in reference to the support structure Afghan Taliban receives from Pakistanis and why this one event probably doesn't impact it much.

They dislike the monsters killing their children, which is why they support the people fighting those monsters.

Don't think "on purpose" or "didn't care enough not to" makes a big difference in their definition of "monster".

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

The Americans did purposefully kill a wack of people, many of them children, by administering fake polio vaccinations while collecting DNA evidence in Pakistan. Is that the same thing? A little neater and cleaner but definitely not as quick.

The U.S. ran a small fake vaccination operation around Attabad in an attempt to find bin laden, they didnt kill anyone though, it wasn't like they were using rat poison instead of a vacine.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

The U.S. ran a small fake vaccination operation around Attabad in an attempt to find bin laden, they didnt kill anyone though, it wasn't like they were using rat poison instead of a vacine.

Yeah. Polio is a great way to live. They were responsible for dozens of vaccinators being killed and tens of thousands of kids not getting vaccinated. But that's pretty small I guess.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

Yeah. Polio is a great way to live. They were responsible for dozens of vaccinators being killed and tens of thousands of kids not getting vaccinated. But that's pretty small I guess.

The Taliban were responsible for that, I'm no fan of the CIA but you can hardly blame them for the medieval reaction to the death of Bin Laden by the morons in Pakistan.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

The Taliban were responsible for that, I'm no fan of the CIA but you can hardly blame them for the medieval reaction to the death of Bin Laden by the morons in Pakistan.

That wasn't a reaction to Bin Laden's death. It was a reaction to a bunch of spies giving fake vaccinations. I'm not sure how you spare American culpability for that since they did it.