02-09-2016, 05:54 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Dreger: Flames haven't officially put Russell on the trade market yet
Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
Dreger noted this a little after 12 pm Pacific today on Kris Russell: "As of last night, he isn't officially on the (trade) market." #Flames
Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
Dreger: If #Flames get to the point where they put Kris Russell on the trade market, "then they'll have no problem attracting the suitors."
More smoke to the Flames re-signing russell?
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02-09-2016, 05:57 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Jesus Christ, if he has any value then trade him.
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02-09-2016, 05:57 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Keep driving that price up.
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02-09-2016, 05:59 PM
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Not a casual user
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I'd like to see the Flames resign him.
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02-09-2016, 06:03 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dion
I'd like to see the Flames resign him.
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Do you think having him here is more valuable then a 2nd?
I guess maybe but we're low on tradeable assets with any value so if you can use him to stock up the cupboards on the farm, which at this point are pretty bare, I think you should do it.
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02-09-2016, 06:04 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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i'd rather move on. make him available.
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02-09-2016, 06:05 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Almost 3 weeks until the deadline. No need to trade him yet, GMs might overpay closer to the deadline.
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02-09-2016, 06:07 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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So the breaking news is that Russell is tradable if they put him on the market? got it. Thank god Dreger is on top of this.
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02-09-2016, 06:08 PM
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Franchise Player
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Location: Income Tax Central
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I'm confident this is just a move to keep his price rising.
"You want him? Okay. No, we dont need to move him. You have to make it worth it for us."
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02-09-2016, 06:14 PM
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Franchise Player
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It's Dreger, he's probably just reporting this because the Flames didn't put out a press release like the Canucks did for Higgins.
Probably thinks it's SOP for teams now.
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02-09-2016, 06:16 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I would think it's normally a dumb move to officially put a guy on the block. Bad for the player, bad for value. If someone wants him, they will ask. If you want to trade him, ask for something and "reluctantly" offer him as value.
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02-09-2016, 06:24 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
Do you think having him here is more valuable then a 2nd?
I guess maybe but we're low on tradeable assets with any value so if you can use him to stock up the cupboards on the farm, which at this point are pretty bare, I think you should do it.
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What if Treliving can get a 3rd or 4th for Smid or Engelland, then do you like dealing one of them and keeping Russell? That's what it may boil down to.
I'm torn. I think Hartley and crew overplays Russell. But I think he'd be a great #5 guy and I think he may be willing to take a bit of a home province discount. I suspect he could get a decent return. It will be a tough question for Treliving to answer whether having him on a hometown discount as a bottom pairing guy going forward is worth more or trading him is worth more. By all accounts he's a great team guy and leader with great intangibles. I can see both sides of the argument, dealing him or keeping him. If Russell's camp wants too much then it makes the decision easy.
Guess we'll know within weeks.
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02-09-2016, 06:24 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I always thought this was a tactic. "No, we're woking on re-signing player X" two weeks later: "We couldn't reach an agreement and we got a stellar return for player X, best of luck to him"
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02-09-2016, 06:47 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
What if Treliving can get a 3rd or 4th for Smid or Engelland, then do you like dealing one of them and keeping Russell? That's what it may boil down to.
I'm torn. I think Hartley and crew overplays Russell. But I think he'd be a great #5 guy and I think he may be willing to take a bit of a home province discount. I suspect he could get a decent return. It will be a tough question for Treliving to answer whether having him on a hometown discount as a bottom pairing guy going forward is worth more or trading him is worth more. By all accounts he's a great team guy and leader with great intangibles. I can see both sides of the argument, dealing him or keeping him. If Russell's camp wants too much then it makes the decision easy.
Guess we'll know within weeks.
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This is my main issue. I believe Hartley plays him to the point he's hurting the team. I also feel he's only good value at his current deal and paying him $4 million a season is a terrible overpayment. I feel the best outcome here is to force his hand and move the player as Hamilton should be getting more ice time than Russell.
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02-09-2016, 06:50 PM
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First Line Centre
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If course they wouldn't put him on the market yet. Trade Wideman based on market value, then afterwards add Russell to the market
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02-09-2016, 08:23 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Is Russell at a 3x3 a bad deal for us? If we could do it? And considering we ditch Wideman and one of Smid/England?
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02-09-2016, 08:36 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMike
Is Russell at a 3x3 a bad deal for us? If we could do it? And considering we ditch Wideman and one of Smid/England?
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That would be fine, but only if you move Wideman or Smid. Russell at $3M fits the budget, if you believe him to be a #4. I'd still move him at the deadline and move on.
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02-09-2016, 08:38 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New Era
That would be fine, but only if you move Wideman or Smid. Russell at $3M fits the budget, if you believe him to be a #4. I'd still move him at the deadline and move on.
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I believe we can move one of them, and that he fits at a 3x3, would a 3rd rounder be worth more than keeping him at that? I don't think so
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02-09-2016, 08:46 PM
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Franchise Player
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I trade Russell.
I think we'll have a shot at re-signing him in the offseason unless someone grossly overpays for him. If that happens I'm pleased for Russell and wish him the best.
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02-09-2016, 08:48 PM
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Franchise Player
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Did Treviling forget to put him on the trade block on his copy of NHL 16? Dang, no GM will even contemplate him until that happens.
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