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Old 02-09-2016, 05:54 PM   #1
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Flames Dreger: Flames haven't officially put Russell on the trade market yet

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Dreger noted this a little after 12 pm Pacific today on Kris Russell: "As of last night, he isn't officially on the (trade) market." #Flames

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Dreger: If #Flames get to the point where they put Kris Russell on the trade market, "then they'll have no problem attracting the suitors."

More smoke to the Flames re-signing russell?
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Old 02-09-2016, 05:57 PM   #2
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Jesus Christ, if he has any value then trade him.
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Keep driving that price up.
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Old 02-09-2016, 05:59 PM   #4
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I'd like to see the Flames resign him.
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I'd like to see the Flames resign him.
Do you think having him here is more valuable then a 2nd?

I guess maybe but we're low on tradeable assets with any value so if you can use him to stock up the cupboards on the farm, which at this point are pretty bare, I think you should do it.
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Old 02-09-2016, 06:04 PM   #6
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i'd rather move on. make him available.
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Old 02-09-2016, 06:05 PM   #7
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Almost 3 weeks until the deadline. No need to trade him yet, GMs might overpay closer to the deadline.
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Old 02-09-2016, 06:07 PM   #8
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So the breaking news is that Russell is tradable if they put him on the market? got it. Thank god Dreger is on top of this.
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Old 02-09-2016, 06:08 PM   #9
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I'm confident this is just a move to keep his price rising.

"You want him? Okay. No, we dont need to move him. You have to make it worth it for us."
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Old 02-09-2016, 06:14 PM   #10
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It's Dreger, he's probably just reporting this because the Flames didn't put out a press release like the Canucks did for Higgins.

Probably thinks it's SOP for teams now.
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Old 02-09-2016, 06:16 PM   #11
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I would think it's normally a dumb move to officially put a guy on the block. Bad for the player, bad for value. If someone wants him, they will ask. If you want to trade him, ask for something and "reluctantly" offer him as value.
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Old 02-09-2016, 06:24 PM   #12
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Do you think having him here is more valuable then a 2nd?

I guess maybe but we're low on tradeable assets with any value so if you can use him to stock up the cupboards on the farm, which at this point are pretty bare, I think you should do it.
What if Treliving can get a 3rd or 4th for Smid or Engelland, then do you like dealing one of them and keeping Russell? That's what it may boil down to.

I'm torn. I think Hartley and crew overplays Russell. But I think he'd be a great #5 guy and I think he may be willing to take a bit of a home province discount. I suspect he could get a decent return. It will be a tough question for Treliving to answer whether having him on a hometown discount as a bottom pairing guy going forward is worth more or trading him is worth more. By all accounts he's a great team guy and leader with great intangibles. I can see both sides of the argument, dealing him or keeping him. If Russell's camp wants too much then it makes the decision easy.

Guess we'll know within weeks.
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I always thought this was a tactic. "No, we're woking on re-signing player X" two weeks later: "We couldn't reach an agreement and we got a stellar return for player X, best of luck to him"
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What if Treliving can get a 3rd or 4th for Smid or Engelland, then do you like dealing one of them and keeping Russell? That's what it may boil down to.

I'm torn. I think Hartley and crew overplays Russell. But I think he'd be a great #5 guy and I think he may be willing to take a bit of a home province discount. I suspect he could get a decent return. It will be a tough question for Treliving to answer whether having him on a hometown discount as a bottom pairing guy going forward is worth more or trading him is worth more. By all accounts he's a great team guy and leader with great intangibles. I can see both sides of the argument, dealing him or keeping him. If Russell's camp wants too much then it makes the decision easy.

Guess we'll know within weeks.
This is my main issue. I believe Hartley plays him to the point he's hurting the team. I also feel he's only good value at his current deal and paying him $4 million a season is a terrible overpayment. I feel the best outcome here is to force his hand and move the player as Hamilton should be getting more ice time than Russell.
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Old 02-09-2016, 06:50 PM   #15
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If course they wouldn't put him on the market yet. Trade Wideman based on market value, then afterwards add Russell to the market
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Is Russell at a 3x3 a bad deal for us? If we could do it? And considering we ditch Wideman and one of Smid/England?
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Is Russell at a 3x3 a bad deal for us? If we could do it? And considering we ditch Wideman and one of Smid/England?
That would be fine, but only if you move Wideman or Smid. Russell at $3M fits the budget, if you believe him to be a #4. I'd still move him at the deadline and move on.
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That would be fine, but only if you move Wideman or Smid. Russell at $3M fits the budget, if you believe him to be a #4. I'd still move him at the deadline and move on.
I believe we can move one of them, and that he fits at a 3x3, would a 3rd rounder be worth more than keeping him at that? I don't think so
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Old 02-09-2016, 08:46 PM   #19
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I trade Russell.

I think we'll have a shot at re-signing him in the offseason unless someone grossly overpays for him. If that happens I'm pleased for Russell and wish him the best.
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Old 02-09-2016, 08:48 PM   #20
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Did Treviling forget to put him on the trade block on his copy of NHL 16? Dang, no GM will even contemplate him until that happens.
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