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Azure · 04-19-2016, 07:55 PM

I know, not many Manitobans on here.

But looks like we having a resounding PC majority.

Coverage here.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2649035/li...toba-election/

29 seats needed for majority, and PCs are heading for around 40 seats.

About bloody time. NDP in Manitoba is corrupt as corrupt can be in Winnipeg. About time that the old guard is thrown out.

Jacks · 04-19-2016, 09:16 PM

Never thought I would be jealous of Manitoba.

Tradesies?

CaptainCrunch · 04-19-2016, 09:23 PM

We are really starting to see the self destruction of the NDP, nationally they're looking like radical latte sipping idiots. They badly wrecked Manitoba, and They're weaving their magic in Alberta.

In three years if the NDP keep their current course will become the unfunny rhino party both federally and provincially. Hopefully they can take the Federal Liberals and Ontario Liberals with them.

rubecube · 04-19-2016, 09:29 PM

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We are really starting to see the self destruction of the NDP, nationally they're looking like radical latte sipping idiots. They badly wrecked Manitoba, and They're weaving their magic in Alberta.

In three years if the NDP keep their current course will become the unfunny rhino party both federally and provincially. Hopefully they can take the Federal Liberals and Ontario Liberals with them.

Yes, countries with one-party rule always turn out so well.

CaptainCrunch · 04-19-2016, 09:31 PM

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Yes, countries with one-party rule always turn out so well.

If it sweeps away the criminal Wynne government, and the incompetence of the Notley government, I can live with it.

Looch City · 04-19-2016, 09:33 PM

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Yes, countries with one-party rule always turn out so well.

In their place we shall have two new parties pre-approved by the Conservative Board of Canada.

Long Live the King Queen.

Faust · 04-19-2016, 09:33 PM

Braid: Manitoba NDP goes down with a message for Notley

http://calgaryherald.com/news/politi...age-for-notley

rubecube · 04-19-2016, 09:37 PM

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If it sweeps away the criminal Wynne government, and the incompetence of the Notley government, I can live with it.

Did we not just see federal and provincial PC governments that were dogged by criminal behaviour and incompetence? Let's not act like any of the parties here are saints.

RedHot25 · 04-19-2016, 09:40 PM

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Did we not just see federal and provincial PC governments that were dogged by criminal behaviour and incompetence? Let's not act like any of the parties here are saints.

Just the one I vote for.

CaptainCrunch · 04-19-2016, 09:43 PM

I'm not I wasn't even talking about that.

but nobody can argue that Wynne isn't one of the most corrupt politicians that this country has ever seen.

The PC's in Alberta were swept out of power because and you're absolutely right they were corrupt and incompetent and arrogant.

The provincial NDP in Alberta are incompetent and Notley is incredibly arrogant. She just managed to bumble to these levels in a year not 15 or 20.

Right now, the Federal Liberals are no better then the Federal PC's. Openness and transparency are clearly as foreign to them as they were to the PC's.

We are in the age of screwed no matter which way we go because the people that are going into politics are the worst of society it seems.

rubecube · 04-19-2016, 09:49 PM

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I'm not I wasn't even talking about that.

but nobody can argue that Wynne isn't one of the most corrupt politicians that this country has ever seen.

The PC's in Alberta were swept out of power because and you're absolutely right they were corrupt and incompetent and arrogant.

The provincial NDP in Alberta are incompetent and Notley is incredibly arrogant. She just managed to bumble to these levels in a year not 15 or 20.

Right now, the Federal Liberals are no better then the Federal PC's. Openness and transparency are clearly as foreign to them as they were to the PC's.

We are in the age of screwed no matter which way we go because the people that are going into politics are the worst of society it seems.

I'm honestly wondering if we wouldn't be better off phasing out the party system. It just seems that these parties have become machines for winning elections and keeping politicians employed as opposed to actually governing for the good of the country.

JohnnyTitan · 04-19-2016, 09:53 PM

Good for Manitoba! Long overdue. It will take years to get things back on track...but at least they can start the rebuild.

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stampsx2 · 04-19-2016, 09:55 PM

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We are really starting to see the self destruction of the NDP, nationally they're looking like radical latte sipping idiots. They badly wrecked Manitoba, and They're weaving their magic in Alberta.

No, the ndp has been in power for so long in manitoba the province is beyond repair. Manitobans generally just accept high taxes, high debt and high crime. They're social leaning for sure. There's a reason there's so many ex winnipeger's in calgary and it's not because manitoba is so well run. I think this vote is just a one off.

stampsx2 · 04-19-2016, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rubecube

Did we not just see federal and provincial PC governments that were dogged by criminal behaviour and incompetence? Let's not act like any of the parties here are saints.

The ndp is redefining the word incompetence.

worth · 04-19-2016, 10:55 PM

The thing that concerns me with the collapse of the NDP is the lack of a relatively strong third party regardless of policy. We need this in Canada, and as shown in the US, a two party system just doesn't work.

rubecube · 04-19-2016, 11:16 PM

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The thing that concerns me with the collapse of the NDP is the lack of a relatively strong third party regardless of policy. We need this in Canada, and as shown in the US, a two party system just doesn't work.

I think it's pretty premature to predict the demise of the NDP. Wouldn't be at all shocking to see them take BC in 2017. They need to weigh the correct move shifting back to the left against having the fringe left hijack the party, but I predict pragmatism will win out in the end.

Azure · 04-20-2016, 05:34 PM

The biggest difference maker will be the fact that the long-timers are gone. Seats that have been held for 30 years by the NDP went PC last night which is huge.

IMO, it is the same here as it was in Alberta. The NDP was in charge for 17 years and it was unchecked to a large degree. On a small business level they wrecked havoc on the province that for years all anyone ever knew was young people leaving for Alberta because there was no opportunity here. We have a different economy than Alberta will ever have, but there should still be opportunity for people to stay and make a go of it.

Another huge issue I have was that there was a NDP mayor in Winnipeg who colluded with the NDP provincial government and they basically did what they want. Now we have a very good young mayor, and a PC government. Hopefully they get some results.

Either way its not NDP better, PC worse or vice versa. The PCs deserved to be kicked out in Alberta just like the NDP deserved to be kicked out here. The issue in Alberta and perhaps here was that people were so sick and tired of the government in charge that they completely swung over to the other side. Maybe both Manitoba and Alberta voting Liberal would have been a lot better. Who knows.

Clarkey · 04-20-2016, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rubecube

I think it's pretty premature to predict the demise of the NDP. Wouldn't be at all shocking to see them take BC in 2017. They need to weigh the correct move shifting back to the left against having the fringe left hijack the party, but I predict pragmatism will win out in the end.

Christ is that ever scary for this country and this economy.

rubecube · 04-20-2016, 09:21 PM

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Christ is that ever scary for this country and this economy.

Again though it's a case where one party, the BC Liberals, have been in power for too long and have gotten corrupt and incompetent and the NDP is the only other alternative.

EDIT: I will say the one difference between the BC branch of the NDP vs. the Alberta branch is there are generally more "qualified" candidates in the former due to their history in the province.

Johnny199r · 04-20-2016, 09:32 PM

The NDP had been in power for 16 years. Yes, they had a dumb leader, but eventually people want change after such a long time.

I'm interested to see how the PC party does in power. Manitoba govt spending was out of control, but the province doesn't have any cash cows like Alberta and Saskatchewan does with respect to oil and potash.