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Old 10-01-2015, 12:43 PM   #1
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Default Nenshi stance on wearing the niqab

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/na...714/story.html

Not a Nenshi fan. He should focus on how to run Calgary better than the niqab ban or the Syrian refugee treatment.

The Niqab ban is only for the duration of the citizenship sworn in ceremony, I fail to see the big deal of it.
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Not a Nenshi fan. He should focus on how to run Calgary better than the niqab ban or the Syrian refugee treatment.

The Niqab ban is only for the duration of the citizenship sworn in ceremony, I fail to see the big deal of it.
Yeah. Taking time to discuss his thoughts on something really takes the time away he needs to run the city
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Old 10-01-2015, 12:46 PM   #3
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Hahaha Ozy called it

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Awaiting the comments that Nenshi shouldn't stick his head in federal political affairs, our Mayor isn't supposed to do that.
Do we need a new thread for this? It's an election issue, keep it there.
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damn it, I read the comments.
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Not a Nenshi fan. He should focus on how to run Calgary better than the niqab ban or the Syrian refugee treatment.

The Niqab ban is only for the duration of the citizenship sworn in ceremony, I fail to see the big deal of it.
And I fail to see why you need it considering they have to take it off privately before anyways. And a ban would also going to get rejected in courts afterward anyways.
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Old 10-01-2015, 12:48 PM   #6
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Everyone in Toronto is insanely jealous of Calgary because of Nenshi. He is the perfect example of what a community leader should be.
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How dare community leaders say something on the ridiculousness of this. Leave it for the pros at the federal level. I don't want what amounts to $0.50 of paid taxpayer time being wasted speaking of this drivel. He should be focusing on how not to spend $0.50 from our municipal coffers. Spendshi indeed.
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Not a Nenshi fan. He should focus on how to run Calgary better than the niqab ban or the Syrian refugee treatment.

The Niqab ban is only for the duration of the citizenship sworn in ceremony, I fail to see the big deal of it.
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If I had a dollar for every time I heard "He should focus on how to run Calgary better than [insert issue]", I could fund Calgary Next all by myself.
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I agree with Nenshi. If wearing the niqab is a personal choice made by a woman, they should be allowed to do it for the ceremony.

I understand that many conservatives don't like it and Harper represented them by trying to ban it, but it's the fact that the government is now wasting money on a 2nd appeal after losing the case twice, is just a total waste of money. They are going to lose and they know it, but it's their way of keeping it in the news as an election issue.
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Old 10-01-2015, 01:04 PM   #13
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I guess if the mayor of Calgary is talking about it, its obviously a significant issue in the campaign. I don't think Nenshi should have brought it up. It looks like the Tories are doubling down on it:

http://ipolitics.ca/2015/10/01/poili...ublic-service/

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Old 10-01-2015, 01:27 PM   #14
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I like Nenshi and agree with him, but wish he hadn't said anything. It's just adding more fuel to this issue, which has been properly called out as a distraction by both Rex Murphy and Andrew Coyne.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...id=62680227685

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-co...-is-ridiculous

A total of 2 out of something like 680,000 new citizens have requested this. Let's get some perspective.
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I guess if the mayor of Calgary is talking about it, its obviously a significant issue in the campaign. I don't think Nenshi should have brought it up. It looks like the Tories are doubling down on it:

http://ipolitics.ca/2015/10/01/poili...ublic-service/
The impression I got from the Herald article is that Nenshi didn't bring it up, he was asked about it in an interview.
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Not a Nenshi fan. He should focus on how to run Calgary better than the niqab ban or the Syrian refugee treatment.

The Niqab ban is only for the duration of the citizenship sworn in ceremony, I fail to see the big deal of it.
What do you do for a living? You should maybe focus on that instead of ranting about Nenshi.

Oh, wait, someone can have an opinion without necessarily affecting their actual job? Sounds iffy to me!
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How dare a Canadian have an opinion about Canada?
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I like Nenshi and agree with him, but wish he hadn't said anything. It's just adding more fuel to this issue, which has been properly called out as a distraction by both Rex Murphy and Andrew Coyne.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...id=62680227685

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-co...-is-ridiculous

A total of 2 out of something like 680,000 new citizens have requested this. Let's get some perspective.
Some would say Lynton Crosby is doing a fantastic job:
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According to London mayor, Boris Johnson, who Crosby also helped out of an electoral squeeze, Crosby advised that:
"If you're losing an argument, if you're in a weak position, throw a dead cat on the table. Everyone will shout 'Jeez, mate, there's a dead cat on the table!'; in other words they will be talking about the dead cat, the thing you want them to talk about, and they will not be talking about the issue that has been causing you so much grief."
In Canada the issue of the wearing of the niqab has become a convenient dead cat to throw on the federal election table.
Others would say this is a really important issue, going forward:
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But the people who argue that the niqab debate is irrelevant are wrong. It is really a debate about our values, and equality, and the limits of tolerance. How far are we prepared to go to accommodate religious and cultural differences? At what point must newcomers be prepared to accommodate themselves to Canadian society and values? The debate about accommodation and values will last far beyond this election. It will be among the biggest issues of our future....
I believe that Canada is strong and confident enough to tolerate a few women in face coverings. I also believe that the niqab has no place in Canada, and that women who wear them should be strongly discouraged (but not, under most circumstances, barred) from doing so. Symbols matter. And this one matters more than most.
Interest read here:
http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/chri...le-subjugation
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Not a Nenshi fan. He should focus on how to run Calgary better than the niqab ban or the Syrian refugee treatment.

The Niqab ban is only for the duration of the citizenship sworn in ceremony, I fail to see the big deal of it.
You're right! How dare a politician state his opinion on a polical issue in the the middle of a radio show about politics!

There are problems in Calgary, he shouldn't be thinking about anything other than those problems cause...rabble...rabble...rabble!
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Yes. (Lynton is, that dead cat point is very true, and I give zero credence to anything written by Margaret Wente).

We've discussed a woman's right to wear a niqab (or whatever the hell she likes) before. This is an election, and there are many bigger, non dead cat issues.
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