[Rumour] Were the Flames after Stamkos? - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

speeds · 10-02-2015, 03:39 PM

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/hocke...season/2248125

Bandwagon In Flames · 10-02-2015, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by speeds

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/hocke...season/2248125

Did you read the article? Calgary was mentioned in the first paragraph and that's it. Stamkos strongly denied the rumor and that was that.

Article is complete speculation and just click bait. Just a way to sensationalize the boring topic of contract extensions.

Vinny01 · 10-02-2015, 03:51 PM

I couldn't imagine what we would have given up but salary and a guy like Bennett likely would have been going the other way

flambers · 10-02-2015, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

I couldn't imagine what we would have given up but salary and a guy like Bennett likely would have been going the other way

Doubt any team is going to offer that much for a pending ufa.

Vinny01 · 10-02-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by flambers

Doubt any team is going to offer that much for a pending ufa.

I doubt Tampa would give up one of the best goal scorers in the game who is 25 for anything less than a massive price

Caged Great · 10-02-2015, 04:09 PM

It would be interesting to acquire him, but I would not sacrifice any of Brodie, Hamilton, Gaudreau, Monahan, or Bennett to do it. The good thing is that the Flames would have the assets to pull off a trade like that though.

He is a UFA after all and there would be no guarantee that he would want to come here.

That would be a huge add though if it were to become a reality. Shift him to RW and have him on the first line with Gaudreau and Monahan.

Fire of the Phoenix · 10-02-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Caged Great

It would be interesting to acquire him, but I would not sacrifice any of Brodie, Hamilton, Gaudreau, Monahan, or Bennett to do it. The good thing is that the Flames would have the assets to pull off a trade like that though.

He is a UFA after all and there would be no guarantee that he would want to come here.

That would be a huge add though if it were to become a reality. Shift him to RW and have him on the first line with Gaudreau and Monahan.

I guess one of the biggest issues is they want him on RW in Tampa right now but Stamkos wants to play C

Badgers Nose · 10-02-2015, 04:46 PM

I feel that despite his accomplishments he is kind of under rated. It would be great to see him in a big hockey market.

He breaks the Flames model, in terms of development, contender projection and money. Glad he did not end up here, as it would have taken a huge payment to get him, UFA or not.

blankall · 10-02-2015, 05:13 PM

Honestly, after the Hamilton deal, I feel like we could get Stamkos for Brandon Bollig and a couple of buffet passes to the Chrysler Club Lobby.

btimbit · 10-02-2015, 05:25 PM

I'm sure the rumour isn't completely unfounded, given Treliving's reputation they, have probably talked about it. As far as a deal ever being somewhat close though? No way

T@T · 10-02-2015, 05:59 PM

Tampa's in a bit of a pickle, they are up against the cap, reports are Stamkos isn't too happy so I doubt any sort of discount will happen.

I can't imagine him signing for less than $11-12m long term.

JohnnySkittles · 10-02-2015, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Caged Great

It would be interesting to acquire him, but I would not sacrifice any of Brodie, Hamilton, Gaudreau, Monahan, or Bennett to do it. The good thing is that the Flames would have the assets to pull off a trade like that though.

He is a UFA after all and there would be no guarantee that he would want to come here.

That would be a huge add though if it were to become a reality. Shift him to RW and have him on the first line with Gaudreau and Monahan.

No we don't. Getting Stamkos would cost at least Bennett ++

Fire of the Phoenix · 10-02-2015, 07:43 PM

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No we don't. Getting Stamkos would cost at least Bennett +

Name one trade in the last 10 years where a pending UFA was traded for a package that included a prospect as good as Bennett. Tampa will not be getting a Bennett-type back from anyone if they go down the trade route, historically there is no reason to think that. Granted a UFA as good as Stamkos hasn't really been traded (Hossa is the closest and look at that 'value'), so it is hard to say but one thing's for sure, it would be idiocy to trade a Bennett for 20-80 games of Steven Stamkos. Maybe an extended Stamkos gets you Bennett but no way, no how, if he's a pending UFA. I wouldn't even trade Bennett for one season of Sidney Crosby. That's just terrible planning unless it's going to guarantee you the cup (which it won't, obviously).

FWIW, hypothetically, I think Klimchuk+Poirier+1st+cap dump is a fair starting point (not that I would necessarily endorse it), but Bennett is on a whole other level...

It's interesting, TBL would really hurt their chances for the cup next year if they trade him but it would also hurt to lose him for nothing. They also can't really afford him $$$ wise with all the talent they have (the triplets and Hedman will need re-upped within 2 years). I don't think the odds are great that Stamkos is in Tampa this time next year, it's just a matter of which poison pill Yzerman wants to eat. He could always sign him of course, but that's just another poison pill that would likely cost them other players they might rather not lose.

Caged Great · 10-02-2015, 07:53 PM

Joe Thornton returned Brad Stuart (#2 D-man) Marco Sturm (2nd liner) and Wayne Primeau (4th liner) and he was under contract at the time.

The Bolts do not need defensemen, so a trade of say Backlund + Poirier/Klimchuk + Hiller/Ramo + 1st would probably be enough even though that sounds like highway robbery. Nobody thought a 1st + 2 2nds would get Hamilton.

d_phaneuf · 10-02-2015, 08:04 PM

He's a leaf on June 1st, 2016 IMO

KootenayFlamesFan · 10-02-2015, 08:15 PM

Besides playing closer (or at) home, why would anyone want to play in T.O.? Tampa looks set for quite a few years, Stamkos would be foolish to give up potentially numerous shots at a Cup just to play for the Leafs.

Enoch Root · 10-02-2015, 08:20 PM

Yeah, I doubt that after surviving one rebuild, he is keen on joining another

As for the Flames acquiring him, man that would make things tough for signing the young trio

Street Pharmacist · 10-02-2015, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Besides playing closer (or at) home, why would anyone want to play in T.O.? Tampa looks set for quite a few years, Stamkos would be foolish to give up potentially numerous shots at a Cup just to play for the Leafs.

He's not the big kahuna anymore though. He's not getting elite money from Tampa, so he'll find it elsewhere

KootenayFlamesFan · 10-02-2015, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

He's not the big kahuna anymore though. He's not getting elite money from Tampa, so he'll find it elsewhere

7.5 this season and the owner has already said Yzerman can do pretty much anything he wants money wise that makes sense for the team. So unless Yzerman is low-balling in a big way he's going to get a monster contract. That and a stacked team, not sure what else he wants. Toronto seems like he would be taking about 20 steps backwards.

Finger Cookin · 10-02-2015, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Name one trade in the last 10 years where a pending UFA was traded for a package that included a prospect as good as Bennett.

I can't think of a trade in the past 20 years that involved an entire season of a pending UFA as good as Stamkos. I have no idea what he'd fetch. Not that it matters, since he won't get dealt anytime soon.