[News] Flames cut 9 players (7 to Stockton, Schneider back to Junior, Murray released)

[sureLoss]

http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=780560

The Calgary Flames announced today that they have assigned seven players to their American Hockey League affiliate, the Stockton Heat: Austin Carroll (RW), Mitchell Heard (C), Aaron Johnson (D), Ryan Lomberg (LW), Louick Marcotte (RW), Kent Simpson (G), and Hunter Smith (RW). The Flames also assigned goaltender Nick Schneider to Medicine Hat (WHL) and they announced that defenceman Douglas Murray has been released from his professional try-out.

Calgary has 49 players remaining at training camp (5x goalies, 18x defencemen, 26x forwards).

[polak]

Hunter Smith makes the A! That's good. Or was he a lock?

[GranteedEV]

Caroll and Smith the most notable cuts. Schneider sent to Junior unsurprisingly.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by polak

Hunter Smith makes the A! That's good. Or was he a lock?

He could have gone back to junior as an overager, but it would have been a surprise if he did.

[JJ1532]

Would someone be kind enough to post an updated roster of who is now left in camp?

[redsunsdriver]

I guess Carroll is not playing tonight.

[FBI]

Pumped that Smith made the Heat! Carroll too right? Or was that a given..

[Ring of Fire]

Kanzig not assigned to the AHL with Carroll and Smith (both guys that are 1st year pro). I know Klimchuk is also hanging around but it looks like Kanzig may be going back to jrs.

[Caged Great]

All of them were expected. I'm sure after tomorrow another dozen or so will get re-assigned.

[sureLoss]

who is left by my count (please let me know if there is a mistake)
GOALTENDERS
1 - Jonas Hiller
31 - Karri Ramo
72 - Mason McDonald
36 - Jon Gillies
37 - Joni Ortio
DEFENCEMEN
15 - Ladislav Smid
63 - Ryan Culkin
7 - TJ Brodie
26 - Tyler Wotherspoon
29 - Deryk Engelland
43 - Dustin Stevenson
73 - Keegan Kanzig
4 - Kris Russell
6 - Dennis Wideman
50 - Patrick Sieloff
53 - Kenney Morrison
58 - Oliver Kylington
5 - Mark Giordano
27 - Dougie Hamilton
33 - Jakub Nakladal
44 - Ryan Wilson (PTO)
54 - Rasmus Andersson
61 - Brett Kulak

FORWARDS
13 - Johnny Gaudreau
16 - Josh Jooris
23 - Sean Monahan
51 - Kenny Agostino
60 - Markus Granlund
79 - Micheal Ferland
8 - Joe Colborne
11 - Mikael Backlund
17 - Lance Bouma
22 - Drew Shore
28 - Emile Poirier
52 - Brandon Bollig
64 - Garnet Hathaway
65 - Turner Elson
67 - Micheal Frolik
18 - Matt Stajan
19 - David Jones
21 - Mason Raymond
24 - Jiri Hudler
45 - Morgan Klimchuk
46 - Bill Arnold
48 - Bryce Van Brabant
57 - Derek Grant
76 - Blair Riley
93 - Sam Bennett
32 - Paul Byron

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Ring of Fire

Kanzig not assigned to the AHL with Carroll and Smith (both guys that are 1st year pro). I know Klimchuk is also hanging around but it looks like Kanzig may be going back to jrs.

Don't assume that just yet. Kanzig was one of the last cuts last season too. I think the Flames want more face to face time with him.

[Serapth]

So, if a rookie pushes hard, do we expect to see a trade happen immediately, or a minor league start and a promotion later? I mean, always earned, right?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Serapth

So, if a rookie pushes hard, do we expect to see a trade happen immediately, or a minor league start and a promotion later? I mean, always earned, right?

If a trade has to happen to make room for the rookie, then the trade happens when it happens. One GM can't make a trade all by himself.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Serapth

So, if a rookie pushes hard, do we expect to see a trade happen immediately, or a minor league start and a promotion later? I mean, always earned, right?

Probably similar to last year, where Jooris earned a spot but didn't get recalled right away until Setoguchi got demoted.

[Serapth]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

If a trade has to happen to make room for the rookie, then the trade happens when it happens. One GM can't make a trade all by himself.

But you run into a catch-22. If a player earns his way onto the team but doesn't make the team, it makes the ethos seem like a lie.

On the other hand, if you send a veteran down to the minor while waiting to trade them, you kill their value.

Leaving a very very very small window in which to make an optimal trade.

[polak]

Originally Posted by redsunsdriver

I guess Carroll is not playing tonight.

Was he supposed too?

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Serapth

But you run into a catch-22. If a player earns his way onto the team but doesn't make the team, it makes the ethos seem like a lie.

Only to pedantic fans.

[GranteedEV]

One notable non-cut is Dustin Stevenson. Must be a real boost to his confidence.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Serapth

But you run into a catch-22. If a player earns his way onto the team but doesn't make the team, it makes the ethos seem like a lie.

On the other hand, if you send a veteran down to the minor while waiting to trade them, you kill their value.

Leaving a very very very small window in which to make an optimal trade.

Yeah, no.

Just because you earned something doesnt mean you'll reap the reward immediately.

Professional hockey, hell professional sports in general, are not big on instant gratification.

If you earn a spot thats great but you may not get it right away and not every single time they dont immediately adhere to the ethos to the letter makes it instantly obsolete or hollow.

[Stay Golden]

Keep the cuts coming Hartley Murray released nice the Flames have 4-5 D prospects that would be a better fit for the 7 spot. Not including Wilson.