The electric age is afoot. Bmw and Schrem put the first 40 ton truck into action.

[combustiblefuel]

http://www.cnet.com/news/bmw-puts-a-...k-on-the-road/

An electric truck has been officially deployed in Munich, Bavaria, Germany, in a partnership between German automobile manufacturer BMW and automotive service provider Scherm. Together, the two companies have put the first 40-ton electric vehicle on public roads.

The truck, designed and built by Dutch truck manufacturer Terberg, will be charged exclusively using energy from renewable sources. It takes 3 to 4 hours to charge completely, and can travel up to 100 kilometres on a full charge, which will allow it to work for a full day on a single charge.

"With this project we will gain valuable information on what will be possible with electric trucks in the future for city logistics," said Jürgen Maidl, head of logistics at BMW Group. "The BMW Group, along with our partner the Scherm Group, is once again bravely embarking on a new journey and delivering pioneering work."

[Northendzone]

kind of a cool looking truck, but i am surprised that a rig like that would only drive 100k in a day - a return trip across (deep SE to say Airport) calgary is what 60k or so?

[OutOfTheCube]

Yeah 100k is pretty poor range for a truck. Would only be able to work within a city and even then would need a recharge after a just a few deliveries, depending on where they were. Most transport depots aren't in the inner city either so a lot of times, say in Calgary, a driver could be looking at 20km just to get to a customer.

[nfotiu]

A foot?

[Ducay]

Wait, the truck is a foot?



edit: thread title updated for correct grammar. Joke used to be relevant.

[puckedoff]

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[Northendzone]

i am confused

[Superflyer]

Very interesting. I'm assuming that they are referring to a fully loaded truck going those distances instead of an empty\half full one.
If it is for a fully loaded truck this can be a great starting point.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Superflyer

Very interesting. I'm assuming that they are referring to a fully loaded truck going those distances instead of an empty\half full one.
If it is for a fully loaded truck this can be a great starting point.

No point of advertising ranges for less than truckload loads... Just make the truck smaller if it can't do a full load on that range otherwise you're carrying around deadspace.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Yeah 100k is pretty poor range for a truck. Would only be able to work within a city and even then would need a recharge after a just a few deliveries, depending on where they were. Most transport depots aren't in the inner city either so a lot of times, say in Calgary, a driver could be looking at 20km just to get to a customer.

Well this is Europe and 100 km range for a local delivery truck is likely adequate enough.

IN the article they mention that this prototype will be moving parts from one factory to another about 8 times a day....about 16 km total a day and would likely be a full shift or two.

I'd think for most areas in Europe a daily allowance of 100 km is adequate for a delivery van. And it is a prototype....by the time something like this is released that range will likely be significantly more.

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

That's an interesting Thread Title vs. Thread Originator correlation.

[para transit fellow]

A Canadian transit bus manufacturer is prototyping electric transit buses.

One concept has about hundred kilometers of range and a 4 hour recharge. For the transit industry that will fit with a morning and afternoon run to cover the peaks

The other concept is for the bus to drive 45 minutes and linger for 10 minutes which would allow the charging system to" top up " and run all day

If one where to incorporate a fast recharge to that electric truck... It could be very productive on a specifically scheduled route

[Fozzie_DeBear]

I'd really like to know the trajectory these technology platforms are on...I've read that once the batteries are about 300% better energy density than they are now. The internal combustion engine is done...

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear

I'd really like to know the trajectory these technology platforms are on...I've read that once the batteries are about 300% better energy density than they are now. The internal combustion engine is done...

I give it less than 15 years before has stations start disappearing

[polak]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

I give it less than 15 years before has stations start disappearing

Seriously doubtful.

I work for one of the biggest Gas Station retailers in Canada and our board recently was asked if there's any plans for EV charging stations at our sites or any threat of EV's hurting our business and they basically laughed.

You think in 15 years there will be no more gasoline powered cars? Every single person in Canada will have a fancy new electric car?

Until an EV can drive a route similar to Calgary to Vancouver in a normal 10-12 hour time frame, it's nothing more than a gimmick.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by polak

Seriously doubtful.

I work for one of the biggest Gas Station retailers in Canada and our board recently was asked if there's any plans for EV charging stations at our sites or any threat of EV's hurting our business and they basically laughed.

You think in 15 years there will be no more gasoline powered cars? Every single person in Canada will have a new car?

Until an EV can drive a route similar to Calgary to Vancouver in a normal 10-12 hour time frame, it's nothing more than a gimmick.

[I]Start[I] disappearing. They can laugh, but if say 15% of cars on the road don't use gas, that's at remarkably big hit to what has been a very steady growth volume. High cluster areas will see some close

[polak]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

[I]Start[I] disappearing. They can laugh, but if say 15% of cars on the road don't use gas, that's at remarkably big hit to what has been a very steady growth volume. High cluster areas will see some close

Oh, then yeah I agree.

Really just depends on battery tech. Right now it's not even close to practical for a normal family to have an EV as their only car and if I remember correctly, Batteries are something that we have been piss poor at figuring out. It makes sense when you think about how far consumer electronics have come but how little the batteries that power them have changed.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by polak

Oh, then yeah I agree.

Really just depends on battery tech. Right now it's not even close to practical for a normal family to have an EV as their only car and if I remember correctly, Batteries are something that we have been piss poor at figuring out. It makes sense when you think about how far consumer electronics have come but how little the batteries that power them have changed.

Tesla can make a car with a 400 mile range and the batteries need changing after 80,000 miles. That's significant and really, cost wise, similar or better than combustion engines.

[Locke]

I think the foot would be the Kinetic age? But physics isnt my strong suit.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by ernie

Well this is Europe and 100 km range for a local delivery truck is likely adequate enough.

IN the article they mention that this prototype will be moving parts from one factory to another about 8 times a day....about 16 km total a day and would likely be a full shift or two.

I'd think for most areas in Europe a daily allowance of 100 km is adequate for a delivery van. And it is a prototype....by the time something like this is released that range will likely be significantly more.

How many delivery trucks only do one delivery a day though. The truck also needs 4 hours to recharge.

I just don't see how that range is useful in any commercial setting.