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View Poll Results: Who is in the Jays all time rotation?
Roy Halladay 77 97.47%
Dave Stieb 65 82.28%
Jimmy Key 45 56.96%
Juan Guzman 23 29.11%
Rogers Clemons 53 67.09%
David Cone 16 20.25%
Mark Burhle 3 3.80%
RA Dickey 2 2.53%
Dave Stewart 4 5.06%
Todd Stottlemyre 1 1.27%
Jim Clancy 2 2.53%
Pat Hentgen 51 64.56%
David Wells 22 27.85%
Doyle Alexander 1 1.27%
Chris Carpenter 3 3.80%
Kelvim Escobar 3 3.80%
Jack Morris 16 20.25%
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Old 08-25-2015, 08:21 PM   #1
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Ok to do this right everyone needs to co-operate and follow the instructions.
Vote for 5 pitchers to make the all time rotation. No more, no less.
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Old 08-25-2015, 08:25 PM   #2
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Let me know if any one should be added
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Old 08-25-2015, 08:43 PM   #3
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ACE) Stieb
2) Doc
3) Hentgen
4) Jimmy Key
5) Papa Buehrle

Didn't like how his MLB career ended, but I loved the 2009 - 2012 version of Ricky Romero. Something happened with him mentally after the 2012 all star break and he just was never the same pitcher after that contract extension...literally lost "control" over his career.
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:00 PM   #4
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I would have Wells in the pen
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:52 PM   #5
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Had to vote for Doyle Lafayette Alexander. 46 - 26 as a Jay. Two 17 win seasons. And that 'stache was great too.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:36 PM   #6
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Stieb is my all time Jay. All those near no hitters and perfect games, symbolizes all the disappointment until they finally broke through.
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Old 08-26-2015, 12:05 AM   #7
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Clemens was only with the jays for two season but one of those seasons his WAR was above 12. That might be the single greatest season in Blue Jays history.
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Old 08-26-2015, 12:14 AM   #8
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Dave Stieb is a no-brainer, as is Doc Halladay. Clemens did not play long but he was really good. On the flipside, Jimmy Key has longevity so I went with him at 4.

Fifth starter was a toss-up; Hentgen won a Cy Young but I have a soft spot for Juan Guzman so I went with him
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Old 08-26-2015, 12:31 AM   #9
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Stieb
Halladay
Hentgen
Clemens
Key

Morris, Cone, Stewart were great pitchers as well, just weren't there long enough. Clemens wasn't either, but he was so dominant at times I had to slot him in.
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I would have Wells in the pen
No need, we have Tom Henke to close it out
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Old 08-26-2015, 12:59 AM   #11
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DAVID PRICE!! =) lol....i kid i kid.
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Old 08-26-2015, 01:46 AM   #12
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I will never vote for Clemens for anything ever, never mind that he only had 2 years in Toronto and then publicly called out the team for not doing enough to win. The guy was more a Yankee and Red Sox than he will ever be a Blue Jay (not to mention a cheater and a bully). Wells was good too, but did more for the Yankees than he ever did for the Jays.

I went with my gut initially, and then looking up the numbers I felt justified.

Halladay
Stieb
Key
Hentgen
Guzman

I would have said Chris Carpenter, but he was mediocre at best with the Jays and then went on to some amazing years in St. Louis. It always bummed me out that the Jays gave up on him too soon.
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Oh, and for those voting Clemens simply because he had a couple of dominant years, don't forget he was juicing like crazy at the time. I know he's a good pitcher, but take those numbers with a grain of salt.
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Old 08-26-2015, 06:40 AM   #14
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Halladay
Steib
Key
Hentgen
Wells

Clemens gets not vote due to his roiding.

Honourable mentions to Guzman and Morris

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Top 4 were easy for me: Stieb, Doc, Key, Hentgen

The 5th I couldn't decide so went with Guzman, but there are good arguments for many others. I didn't go with Clemens because roids and he had major seasons with other teams too. Morris is more of a Tiger or Twin than a Jay to me. Carpenter had his best seasons after he left.

I don't own a Jays Jersey, but if I got one it would probably be a Halladay or Stieb.
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The fact that Stieb isn't unanimous shows that some of you voters are just kids...

Clemens had the greatest single season as a Blue Jays pitcher, but I can't vote for him simply based on how he engineered his way out of Toronto.
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Top 4 were easy for me: Stieb, Doc, Key, Hentgen

The 5th I couldn't decide so went with Guzman, but there are good arguments for many others. I didn't go with Clemens because roids and he had major seasons with other teams too. Morris is more of a Tiger or Twin than a Jay to me. Carpenter had his best seasons after he left.

I don't own a Jays Jersey, but if I got one it would probably be a Halladay or Stieb.
Halladay was my first Jays jersey. Never got to see him pitch live with Toronto. I did get to see him with the Phillies at Dodger stadium. Guy was a total pro.
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Guys, EVERYONE was roiding.
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The fact that Stieb isn't unanimous shows that some of you voters are just kids...

Clemens had the greatest single season as a Blue Jays pitcher, but I can't vote for him simply based on how he engineered his way out of Toronto.
That was my stance on Clemens too. Less about the steroids and more just about his exit. Frankly Roger as a Jay never felt right.
Agree on Stieb, but expected that since his peak years were so long ago. What stuns me is anyone wouldn't vote for Doc.
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No need, we have Tom Henke to close it out
So a one-man bullpen?

Ward as the 8th inning guy and Henke as the closer was the best bullpen in Jays history.

And that was before the 8th inning guy was really a thing.
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