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View Poll Results: Best coach in Flames history?
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Al MacNeil
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0.57% |
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Bob Hartley
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26 |
14.86% |
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Bob Johnson
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78 |
44.57% |
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Brent Sutter
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2 |
1.14% |
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Brian Sutter
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0.57% |
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Darryl Sutter
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47 |
26.86% |
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Dave King
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0% |
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Don Hay
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0% |
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Doug Risebrough
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0% |
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Greg Gilbert
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0% |
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Guy Charron
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0% |
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Jim Playfair
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1 |
0.57% |
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Mike Keenan
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0% |
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Pierre Page
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1 |
0.57% |
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Terry Crisp
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18 |
10.29% |
08-11-2015, 11:45 AM
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Countdown Poll - Flames coaches
Trying to figuere out how to start a brawl in this one!
Johnson? Hartley? Keenan? Darryl Sutter?
Same drill. Best coach in Flames history?
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08-11-2015, 11:49 AM
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Love Hartley, but Badger Bob was a twisted genius.
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08-11-2015, 11:52 AM
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I had to give it to Daryll. I loved me some Crispy and Badger Bob is a legend, but Sutter was one of the best in the league ever. His legacy is tainted by his tenure as GM here, but for all of that I still think he was the best we've had so far. Now give Bob a couple more seasons like last and he'll have my vote.
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08-11-2015, 11:54 AM
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Hartley, he's got the hardware.
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08-11-2015, 12:00 PM
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It's a close call between Badger Bob and Daryl, but in the end I had to go with Sutter. He is an amazing coach who lost his way as GM near the end which may taint his legacy, but shouldn't.
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08-11-2015, 12:01 PM
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I've often believed that if Darryl stopped being GM and went back to coaching, we would have won a cup by now...
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08-11-2015, 12:04 PM
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It's a great day for hockey.
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08-11-2015, 12:13 PM
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In my mind there are six strong possibilities.
Badger Bob was a legend, of course.
Terry Crisp not only won the Stanley Cup, he did so by getting an offence-first group to buy into team defence; they cut their goals against by almost a goal per game from one year to the next.
Al MacNeil took a pretty average and strangely built team to the conference finals, a nice follow-up to the Cup win on his resume from Montreal.
Dave King took a team that was no better than average, that had been bleeding talent for years and continued to lose one star after another, and somehow kept it looking pretty good.
Darryl Sutter: '04. 'Nuff said. In L.A. he showed he could win that last game.
But I went with Bob Hartley, because he changed the culture and work ethic of the Flames like no other coach in team history, and few in the league. From 27th place to the second round of playoffs, and as a bonus, wrecked the career of John Tortorella and exposed the decline of the Vancouver Canucks. A lot of CPers howled about nepotism when Feaster hired him, but he's made Boblievers of us all.
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08-11-2015, 12:21 PM
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Bob Johnston was a genius coach. He game planned for opponents better than anyone else I've seen. I firmly believe Crisp's cup win would have been Bob's if he'd stayed. Bob had that team finely tuned.
I was pretty happy to see Johnston finally get his cup a couple years later.
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08-11-2015, 12:29 PM
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Badger Bob Johnson. No doubt in my mind. Crisp inherited all the good work Johnson did in previous seasons.
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08-11-2015, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil
Hartley, he's got the hardware.
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If it comes down to a battle of the hardware then Crispy wins in a landslide.
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08-11-2015, 12:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacks
If it comes down to a battle of the hardware then Crispy wins in a landslide.
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Haha you're right in that sense, I should have been more specific. He's the only Flames coach to win coach of the year.
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08-11-2015, 12:48 PM
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Bob Johnson had to prepare his team to play against one of the most unbelievably talented squads that has ever been iced. And they did pretty darned well against them.
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08-11-2015, 12:48 PM
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Pierre Page deserves credit for his verbal triad on Mats Sundin alone.... doesn't matter what team it was for
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08-11-2015, 12:50 PM
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Went with Sutter. What he did here, and what he did in LA, cements in my mind that he's one hell of a coach. Can't understand him to save my life...but a hell of a coach.
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08-11-2015, 12:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by habernac
Bob Johnson had to prepare his team to play against one of the most unbelievably talented squads that has ever been iced. And they did pretty darned well against them.
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The famous 7 point plan on defeating the Oilers
plus also the beginning of the end as the rat was born
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08-11-2015, 01:12 PM
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I'm in agreement with the poll results so far. Johnson is a no brainer, and D. Sutter as a coach can't be forgotten. Similar to the Gio captaincy ranking, Hartley has a bit more to do before getting up to the other guys' level, but he's off to an amazing start.
Should Crisp get a little more credit? He did get the team the ultimate prize.
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08-11-2015, 01:14 PM
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I still feel like that was Johnson's team.
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08-11-2015, 01:44 PM
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Voted Brent Sutter because it can't have been easy to ruin a team with that much talent on it. He deserves some credit for that.
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08-11-2015, 01:44 PM
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This is a great topic. I went with Badger Bob. Definitely some sentimental reasons in there, and influenced by his successes elsewhere.
To me, Darryl and MacNeil were other strong considerations. MacNeil did take the team to the semi finals but I was really too young to have much of an idea of how good a coach he was.
By my count there are 6 guys on that list that have won the Cup as a head coach. Only one did it as a Flame. My gut tells me Crisp was not a great coach, but in the right place at the right time. Still, he got it done.
Lots of great choices on here.
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