08-08-2008, 08:21 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Russia/Georgia back to war...
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08-08-2008, 08:46 AM
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GOAT!
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Ridiculous.
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08-08-2008, 09:24 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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At a firsthand simplistic glance this looks like a bit of double standards from Georgia here.
Everything's fine when they want independance but when South Ossetia wants to become an an autonomous republic within the Russian Federation then things aren't so dandy.
Solution: Have an official internationally recognized referendum.
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08-08-2008, 09:26 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2006
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oh yea the Olympics start today...
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08-08-2008, 09:33 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Finally, there hasnt been a good war to complain about in how many years.....oh wait..... 
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08-08-2008, 09:40 AM
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Had an idea!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagor
Solution: Have an official internationally recognized referendum.
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And which international organization is going to enforce the internationally recognized referendum?
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08-08-2008, 09:51 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
And which international organization is going to enforce the internationally recognized referendum?
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Isn't that the role of the UN? Sanctions? Peacekeepers?
Or .... If it was internationally recognized wouldn't that justify a Russian presence in that area? Wouldn't it justify them turning the gas off until compliance?
It's one thing saying that Russia has invaded, it's another thing when an unofficial referendum says that the people they've invaded aren't against it.
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08-08-2008, 10:09 AM
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Bah, that whole area has been in turmoil for years. Is anyone else surprised? Chechnya, Nagarno-Karabakh, Ahbkazia, South Ossetia.....This place is a powder keg of violence. A big part of the problem is Russia's stubborn refusal to recognize that the entire Caucasus region are full of independent states; Soviet pride still lingers and is a constant theme throughout these conflicts.
Mind you, President Saakashvilli is extremely pro-Western and NATO oriented, so his country's platform is not making this struggle any easier.
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08-08-2008, 10:11 AM
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Scoring Winger
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Nm
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08-08-2008, 10:14 AM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagor
It's one thing saying that Russia has invaded, it's another thing when an unofficial referendum says that the people they've invaded aren't against it.
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Yeah, and it's one thing to say "Russia has invaded to secure what ever" and another to say "Russia has attacked a sovereign country to pick a piece of it for itself", be the reason what ever it may.
Not that anything is that simple. But starting wars is inherently bad.
Excellent timing anyway, because nobody will really care for at least as long as the olympic go on.
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08-08-2008, 11:47 AM
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Had an idea!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagor
Isn't that the role of the UN? Sanctions? Peacekeepers?
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The UN isn't going to pick sides.
They're just going to tell everyone to quit killing each other. 
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08-08-2008, 12:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: not lurking
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokerface
oh yea the Olympics start today...
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Surely you aren't suggesting that a quasi-totalitarian regime would be using the Olympics as a political tool to distract from activities that would normally draw the scrutiny of the world? Well, at least the Olympic committee is smart enough not to allow the games to be hosted in region like the Caucasus, right? Right? Oh yeah, Sochi... Well, at least we can hope that the Olympic spirit in 2014 will bring peace to the region and a respect for human rights and dignity, much as it has in China.
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08-08-2008, 12:42 PM
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I just heard that Russian was disqualified from the war. The troops were caught doping.
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08-08-2008, 02:02 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by octothorp
Surely you aren't suggesting that a quasi-totalitarian regime would be using the Olympics as a political tool to distract from activities that would normally draw the scrutiny of the world? Well, at least the Olympic committee is smart enough not to allow the games to be hosted in region like the Caucasus, right? Right? Oh yeah, Sochi... Well, at least we can hope that the Olympic spirit in 2014 will bring peace to the region and a respect for human rights and dignity, much as it has in China.
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As much as I am for what the Olympics represent and stand for, the summer Olympics just don't do it for me... I never get excited for them.
As for the attack, it was strategy, catch them at a moment when they are not paying attention. Disrespectful to us the Olympics as a diversion.
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08-08-2008, 02:24 PM
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GOAT!
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The best part of this is George Bush telling them to settle their differences peacefully through open dialogue and respectful communication.
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08-08-2008, 02:51 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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There was a video game loosely based on this kind of thing happening. I can't for the life of me remember what it was called. One of those games where you are in control of a bunch of special forces soldiers and you have to do missions. What was it? It's driving me nuts.
Set in South Ossetia and Moscow at one point. Not Rainbow Six but like that.
Last edited by RougeUnderoos; 08-08-2008 at 02:54 PM.
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08-08-2008, 03:22 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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So will someone put a foot in Russia's ass allready?
I am serious. Us Americans were attacked by terriorist of al quiada which Saddam supported and gave money too. Saddam was a terriorist and the world is better for someone to have the balls to take him and Al quiada out. Now someone needs to kick russias ass.
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08-08-2008, 03:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PIMking
So will someone put a foot in Russia's ass allready?
I am serious. Us Americans were attacked by terriorist of al quiada which Saddam supported and gave money too. Saddam was a terriorist and the world is better for someone to have the balls to take him and Al quiada out. Now someone needs to kick russias ass.
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Ronny?
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08-08-2008, 03:37 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Toronto
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You forgot to highlight your text in green....
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08-08-2008, 03:51 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagor
At a firsthand simplistic glance this looks like a bit of double standards from Georgia here.
Everything's fine when they want independance but when South Ossetia wants to become an an autonomous republic within the Russian Federation then things aren't so dandy.
Solution: Have an official internationally recognized referendum.
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And then there is the double standard from Russia.
One breakaway province needs to be crushed (Chechnya), while another needs to be supported (South Ossetia).
The hardest part of this entire conflict for the rest of the world will be to sort through all the BS and misniformation to find out what, exactly, is happening over there.
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