Taber ######-bag escapes

[habernac]

I say give him his wish: shoot the bas**rd.

[Frank the Tank]

Suicide by cop would be fine with me.

I wonder how long it'll take to find him? Pretty easy to go un-noticed in Toronto. Especially downtown.

[peter12]

To be honest I feel kind of sorry for this kid. Really really messed up.

[moon]

Its sad that it got to the point that this kid felt that he had to shoot people and now that he felt he had to run and may decide to force the polices hand and kill him if it comes down to that.

Not sure if he could have been helped with more counselling or help from family and friends, but if you don't want to be cooped up all the time then you shouldn't kill people.

I feel sorry for him but killing people is not the answer and its hard to feel too bad for someone who kill innocent people.

[peter12]

Originally posted by moon@Aug 16 2005, 09:11 AM
Its sad that it got to the point that this kid felt that he had to shoot people and now that he felt he had to run and may decide to force the polices hand and kill him if it comes down to that.

Not sure if he could have been helped with more counselling or help from family and friends, but if you don't want to be cooped up all the time then you shouldn't kill people.

I feel sorry for him but killing people is not the answer and its hard to feel too bad for someone who kill innocent people.

Yeah that's the way I feel. It's a tragedy either way, but once you kill an innocent you have to face the consequences.

Originally posted by Frank the Tank@Aug 16 2005, 02:22 PM
Suicide by cop would be fine with me.

Well I understand what you mean, but if any of you have been following the latest fatality inquiry in Calgary, I hope it doesnt come to that.

[Cheese]

well...if his wish is to be shot to end his misery..I say...catch him and put him in the highest level lockdown joint in Canada...in solitary confinement.

[ken0042]

I'm sure many of us feel that if he died, it wouldn't be a bad thing.

It's too bad he's going to have to make somebody else take his life, rather than doing it himself. No matter how well trained the cop that does end up shooting him is, that man or woman is going to have to deal with the emotional consequenses of taking another life forever.

If the guy wants to die, he should buy some rope, and find himself a tree.

[Bill Bumface]

Did I read that right? Is his sister 44????

[browna]

Originally posted by hulkrogan@Aug 16 2005, 11:35 AM
Did I read that right? Is his sister 44????

If you've ever been to Taber, you'd understand.

[Reggie Dunlop]

He's been re-captured

[Resolute 14]

Originally posted by Bent Wookie+Aug 16 2005, 09:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bent Wookie @ Aug 16 2005, 09:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Frank the Tank@Aug 16 2005, 02:22 PM
Suicide by cop would be fine with me.

Well I understand what you mean, but if any of you have been following the latest fatality inquiry in Calgary, I hope it doesnt come to that. [/b][/quote]
Agreed. If he wants to die, have him tie his bedsheets to he jailcell bars and let him do it himself.

No reason why someone else's life needs to be ruined becuase he was forced to kill a person too cowardly to commit suicide.

[browna]

Reading that Globe article, they can no longer actually name the guy.

Like the old mission impossible:

"As always, should you be caught or killed, the secretary will disaffow any knowledge of your actions"

[CaptainCrunch]

This person should never be re-integrated back into society, apparently his time in prison hasen't changed a thing with him. He escaped from jail and left a terrifying note. There's no reason to ever let him into society, there are way to many questions, and why should we take the chance

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by Cheese@Aug 16 2005, 05:10 PM
well...if his wish is to be shot to end his misery..I say...catch him and put him in the highest level lockdown joint in Canada...in solitary confinement.

Yep. Show him what the true meaning of 'caged' is. He obviously has no clue.

As for the suicide by cop thing, that's all well and good unless you're the cop that has to do it.

[Forever a Flame]

I really never understood some of these kids. They repeatedly take the teaseing from bullies and don't do a thing, they let themselves get picked on. Then what do they do? The anger inside them ends up building up so much, they take a gun to school and start killing people. Yep, real smart.

It's by no means all the people's fault who were bugging the kid constantly, some people need to learn to stand up for themselves. Do that and ohhh I don't know... Maybe you won't get bugged anymore or people will think twice about it?

Rather then taking it, punch the little fata in the face. Sure you might get your ass kicked by him and his friends, but at least they'll know you arn't going to take they're crap, and it would be a lot better then crying about it day after day until finally snapping.

[Reaper]

Originally posted by Forever a Flame@Aug 16 2005, 06:49 PM
I really never understood some of these kids. They repeatedly take the teaseing from bullies and don't do a thing, they let themselves get picked on. Then what do they do? The anger inside them ends up building up so much, they take a gun to school and start killing people. Yep, real smart.

It's by no means all the people's fault who were bugging the kid constantly, some people need to learn to stand up for themselves. Do that and ohhh I don't know... Maybe you won't get bugged anymore or people will think twice about it?

Rather then taking it, punch the little fata in the face. Sure you might get your ass kicked by him and his friends, but at least they'll know you arn't going to take they're crap, and it would be a lot better then crying about it day after day until finally snapping.

Well, it's easy to see you have little insight into psychological or psychiatric issues surrounding these types of incidents/scenarios.

You're swell. Do you often blame the victim?

[8 Ball]

Originally posted by Forever a Flame@Aug 16 2005, 06:49 PM
I really never understood some of these kids. They repeatedly take the teaseing from bullies and don't do a thing, they let themselves get picked on. Then what do they do? The anger inside them ends up building up so much, they take a gun to school and start killing people. Yep, real smart.

It's by no means all the people's fault who were bugging the kid constantly, some people need to learn to stand up for themselves. Do that and ohhh I don't know... Maybe you won't get bugged anymore or people will think twice about it?

Rather then taking it, punch the little fata in the face. Sure you might get your ass kicked by him and his friends, but at least they'll know you arn't going to take they're crap, and it would be a lot better then crying about it day after day until finally snapping.

According to an article in the Herald, he was relentlesly pestered and bullied. When ever he made a stand a bunch of kids would kick the shinguard out of him. I certainly don't condone what he did, but the little bas**rds that had nothing better to do than make his life hell shoulder some of the blame. IMO.

[Reggie Dunlop]

As much as I respect the forgiveness shown by the Reverend Dale Lang (father of the victim), I can't help but think this person is incorrigible due primarily to his limited intellectual capacity. Only so much headway can be made in trying to rehabilitate this character. How he came to the point of countering his situation with violence is another issue, and I really can't say whether it was a result of his upbringing or not. Obviously, there was no early intervention. Did the system fail, or did the proverbial "stuff" happen? Was Littleton a trigger? Quite possible.

There are teenage misfits and bullying. While this is a truly unfortunate thing, I'm not sure the victim (Jason Lang) can be blamed whether he was the primary tormentor or a random bystander.

Just a sad situation all around.

[duncan]

Love this line...
"He is a convicted killer," Wamback said. "He has walked away from so-called supervised custody and he has left a note saying that he will not be taken alive. We have placed the rights of scumbags and deviants ahead of the rights of innocent Canadians."

Supervised custody? The Province of Ontario privatized 90% of the Open Custody facilities under Mike Harris. These "Custody" facilities are 'for-profit' now, so they tend to have one staff working nights with 15-25 offenders. Most open custody facilities are converted houses, with little to no security functions. They also hire inexperienced, under-trained staff who are willing to work for half of what they would make at a secure custody facility, and the turnover rate is brutal.

The YOA was a joke, and the new YCJA is even worse. The jurisdiction for Youth Justice has been taken from the Ministry of Public Safety and Security (Corrections) and handed to the Ministry of Children and Youth Services. The supervision of Young offenders has gone from people who run jails to people who run day care centres. Do you feel Safer?

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"I'm just amazed that somebody who killed somebody, even though he was young when he did it, is just in a halfway house and not in a proper mental institution," added her roommate, Elsa Nealon, 22. '

The YCJA now demands that a third of all custody sentences be sered in an open custody facility, so they will all be in places like that.



"Even though he was transferred to the halfway house in March, Justice Rhys Morgan said at the time he was not ready for freedom. The Crown argued he still posed a "significant risk" to the public.

Morgan said the young man needed a "very slow and supervised transition" back into society via open custody. "

A significant risk? so lets give him more freedom.