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Old 04-27-2015, 10:46 AM   #1
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Alright so a friend and I were looking for tickets for the Flames vs Kings game on April 9th. We saw an ad selling two tickets for relatively good prices.

My friend contacted the seller and we agreed to purchase the tickets. They weren't hard copy but at the time we didn't really think anything of it since we usually go to games and hardly have hard copies on hand.

The guy was going by a different man's name and was using an email address which had a domain that belonged to the real estate company the man works for.

We made the money transfer, got our tickets and were extremely happy to be going to the game. I talked to another friend of mine the next day who was a little skeptical. He went to Whois and searched the domain and we discovered that the email address was only set up the day before. We called the Calgary Flames and they confirmed that the tickets were fake.

I got in touch with the guy whose name was being used and told him what was going on. He was extremely p***** off as you could imagine, and he contacted the police. I filed a report with the police that same day.

A few days ago my friend sent me a link to a Global report, and I am 100% sure this is the guy that scammed us. The name 'Kelley' and the domain he was using for his email address in the video are the same ones that contacted my friend and exchanged the tickets with.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1952338/fl...scams-exposed/

If you scroll down, there's a video of the two guys who also got scammed confronting the POS. My friend told me that the suspect has apparently been arrested (according to the Facebook status of one of the gentlemen who confronted the suspect)

So my question is: now that they've apparently arrested this lowlife SOB, what do my friend and I do? We would really like to get our money back. This is the first time I've filed a police report, so I am unsure of what steps to take.

Any suggestions are appreciated, thanks.

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Old 04-27-2015, 10:47 AM   #2
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small claims - should be an easy judgement to get
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You said you filed a Police Report the same day, then at the end of the post you said you have never filed a police report before
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:52 AM   #4
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Tell him you'll mail him some lube in prison if he'll give your money back.
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:55 AM   #5
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You said you filed a Police Report the same day, then at the end of the post you said you have never filed a police report before
That was the first time. What I meant at the end was this is my first time going through the whole process of filing a report, following up, etc.

Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:56 AM   #6
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small claims - should be an easy judgement to get
Even if you go through the hassle and get a judgement you still have to collect. Guys like this usually don't have anything of value in their name.
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small claims - should be an easy judgement to get
Since I don't know the guy's name, would the police give me that information?
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:05 AM   #8
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Since I don't know the guy's name, would the police give me that information?
Probably.
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Make sure you press charges if they ask. Too often these scammers wriggle out of this crap.
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The police should provide you with his name. You will have to contact them. Unfortunately there is not much recourse here to my knowledge. You can always file a claim and "sue" for what he took from you, but you can't squeeze water from a rock, so to speak. It won't be hard to make your case, but gaining compliance from this dirtbag will be uncertain, at best. Again, contact the police. They may have some other form of recourse available to you (though for this sort of thing, unlikely).

At this point the best thing is to think about how to protect yourself in the future. Buying tickets is always a bit of a concern, especially if they aren't hardcopy. Even if they are, there is still a large amount of counterfeits out there for a variety of events. Just be careful going forward.
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Make sure you press charges if they ask. Too often these scammers wriggle out of this crap.
I most definitely will be doing that, this guy deserves whatever is coming his way.
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There is no such thing as "pressing charges" in Canada.
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The police should provide you with his name. You will have to contact them. Unfortunately there is not much recourse here to my knowledge. You can always file a claim and "sue" for what he took from you, but you can't squeeze water from a rock, so to speak. It won't be hard to make your case, but gaining compliance from this dirtbag will be uncertain, at best. Again, contact the police. They may have some other form of recourse available to you (though for this sort of thing, unlikely).

At this point the best thing is to think about how to protect yourself in the future. Buying tickets is always a bit of a concern, especially if they aren't hardcopy. Even if they are, there is still a large amount of counterfeits out there for a variety of events. Just be careful going forward.
Thanks, something. I am going to contact the police (I can't contact the officer that spoke with my friend and I since he called us from a blocked number, but I remember his name so I'll mention it to the operator).

I learned my lesson the hard way and I consider myself lucky that this scumbag got caught. I'm definitely going to be way more careful in the future.
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The police should provide you with his name. You will have to contact them. Unfortunately there is not much recourse here to my knowledge. You can always file a claim and "sue" for what he took from you, but you can't squeeze water from a rock, so to speak. It won't be hard to make your case, but gaining compliance from this dirtbag will be uncertain, at best. Again, contact the police. They may have some other form of recourse available to you (though for this sort of thing, unlikely).

At this point the best thing is to think about how to protect yourself in the future. Buying tickets is always a bit of a concern, especially if they aren't hardcopy. Even if they are, there is still a large amount of counterfeits out there for a variety of events. Just be careful going forward.
Do hard tickets provide any more protection than soft copies these days? As soon as someone prints a soft copy or transfers to someone, the hard tickets become worthless.

Buying through the electronic exchanges is probably the only decently secure option these days.
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There is no such thing as "pressing charges" in Canada.
The concept is still the same. It all starts with filing a report with the police.
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The cops will likely want to get your statement and have you involved in the trial at least as a witness. In regards to the small claim suit, you won't get anything out of it other than, and this is more than worth it in my opinion, having a judgement appear in collections on his credit report for a long time (I think they stay on for longer than seven years and even after they are paid). If nothing else, you will cause him financial stress in the future. It's a chance to keep turning the screws on somebody.
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What Jacks said. Almost no chance of recovery through the courts, though getting a judgement should be a walk. Your only hope really is that the police seized a bunch of money...
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Never ever use Kijiji for tickets. Use StubHub or TicketExchange only. I also had great experiences buying tickets from CalgaryPuck as well.
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There is no such thing as "pressing charges" in Canada.
Yes there is.

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you should be allowed to do something to his car or person until you are satisfied that you have obtained equal valule
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