I did a search and found some great threads on mattresses with lots of good info, however most were a few years old and I was hoping to get specific feedback.
The wife and I are in the market for a new bed, we want to upgrade from a Queen to a King and most importantly we want to sleep through the night
She has the jimmy legs, if you don't want Seinfeld then that is a reference to restless legs syndrome. She fidgets a lot to help her fall asleep, drives me nuts. I tend to get up once in the night as well (I know there is another thread about that ) and it drives her nuts.
So we need a bed that I can drop a bowling ball on one side and not disturb her on the other just like the old commercials. Back support isn't a huge issue for us, neither of us have nagging back problems. The only thing would be my wife does deal with a sore neck/shoulders from time to time so if there is a bed that can help with that then it would be a perk.
Anyone else found themselves in a similar situation and was able to work out a solution through their bed selection?
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As I am given to understand, the proprietary patent on the 'bowling ball' mattress or the 'pocket coil' has expired. As a result, nearly every mattress maker now has at least one 'pocket coil' mattress in their line-up. The idea is that each spring (or 'coil') is separate from the others as opposed to being linked together with other wires to create a long string of springs. So with the springs isolated, motion on one spring does not transfer to the other springs in other parts of the mattress as it does in traditional 'linked spring' mattresses.
So I guess, if you are looking for the 'bowling ball' mattress, you have to look for 'pocket coil' in order to get that type of motion isolating effect.
That said, as a new owner of a latex/memory foam... I can only recommend latex/memory foam.
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I started a thread here a few years ago and got the Tempurpedic. I was a little unsure because its not cheap, but I can't possibly recommend it highly enough! Its just excellent, and as far as not feeling someone else move its far superior to the coil mattresses. Its totally worth every penny, and I can't see you being disappointed in terms of comfort, feeling the other person move or the neck/shoulder pain. Just such a great bed.
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I also recommend the memory foam beds. Instead of the Tempurpedic, though, we purchased one of the knock-offs from Costco (queen size was $600ish). Have had it for 8 years now and is just starting to show its age. Not sure how long the Tempurpedics last.
As an aside, I have RLS-like symptoms - the bed has not done anything for them. However, what I have found that absolutely works for me, is developing strong core muscles. Can't say it would work for everyone as my symptoms are not classic RLS but it can't hurt to try.
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I suggest memory foam as well. But they get warm. If that doesn't work, consider the following?
Buy two smaller beds and slide them side by side. I think a King bed is two double beds side by side. 2x twins is a queen. No needs for modifications of anything, just slide both mattresses side by side into a king sized bed frame.
Cheaper, easier to transport (somewhat) and you can choose varied stiffness or even separately choose memory foam and coil if you want. Only thing you may need to do is make sure the height matches. One side really shouldn't affect the other side. If it does, maybe slot some foam in between the bed frame and the mattress so it cannot shift as much?
We got the Westin heavenly bed. It's super great, I think it's like the bowling ball bed. Queen to King you will never go back.
I'm just gonna chime in here that a great bed is an excellent start and the king upgrade is huge, but look at the overall system. Get ST. Geneve sheets made in Montreal. A bloody fortune but an entire bed in this stuff is like a soft billowy cloud. Sheets and pillows make a big difference to comfort, heat levels and deeper sleeps.
I just recently left the bed business after 17 years in the largest bed chain so can talk from true experiences. Go to one of the major retailers and try the different styles. We have have different levels of comforts and that should always be your first deciding factor. Don't get caught up in the mfg hypes or some sales guy trying to push a certain direction as most are on straight commission and some brands make them more money than others.
RLS people usually go with King size as it is 2 extra long boxes and on big mattress not just twin as they are short. You can also go 2x twin xl and push them together if you wish too as an option if you want to go extreme. Keep in mind not every model is available in that size.
In the memory foam market Tempur is the original and is king. They do make the best longest lasting products without a doubt. It will be warmer to sleep on so make sure if you or your wife sleeps warm you take that into consideration. The one thing good about them is they also hardly move so the is an advantage for RLS people there too. Just also make sure you have a big wallet.
Sleep is important and be prepared to spend money but get what you need to make you feel better. Too many people cheap out and come back later for a second time around. Make sure they have a good exchange program so if you need to bring it back you can up $ and add or if you go down you get all your money back. Some places do not tell you but if you spend less they don't refund your dough.
If anything feel free to pm me and I will try to help you if you have any questions.
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Do not get memory foam and I recommend taking Gaba for restless sleep. Memory foam is terrible for back support after a while.
I'm curious, why do you say memory foam is terrible for back support?
I find the difference from the tempurpedic to my higher end king sized spring mattress is incredible. Are you saying the longer you use memory foam the worse your back does with it?
I've only used one for a few months.
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I'm curious, why do you say memory foam is terrible for back support?
I find the difference from the tempurpedic to my higher end king sized spring mattress is incredible. Are you saying the longer you use memory foam the worse your back does with it?
I've only used one for a few months.
My back is a mess and I've had zero issue with back support on the Tempurpedic. I would note that I also heard the stories of it being much hotter, but haven't found that in practice either. I paid for a model that was supposed to be cooler than the "standard" though, so maybe it actually works. I don't know.
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Memory foam is the best product used for reducing pressure points, moulds for (comfort). Coils push back and provide the best for support.
Everyone has different needs and requirements hence the different styles and as I mentioned in my other post think of what you need most and go from there.
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I have a Pocket Coil, and from my experience Pocket Coils or Memory foam will only be as good as the base you put them on.
If you get one of those metal frames with 6 legs, your springs wont bounce, but your whole bed can shake.
as an aside I at first read the title as Jimmy Long Legs. I was going to tell you that you can actually buy beds that are 4" longer and 4" narrower than normal King Mattresses, they are hard to find but they are called California Kings. Its also vary hard to find sheets for them.
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First thing to check is making sure you have a solid frame as a lot of times the store gives or sells you the cheapo. Spend some bucks and get a good one. The more contact points the better.
Cal King sheets are actually very easy to come by if you know where to get them. That is actually a water bed size if you have anyone that sells wtarebed bedding.
The other thing is you can order bedding out of the U.S. In the states Cal King is actually their standard king size not like us short Canadians so they stock for that size. Harder to get bedding down there for our king size and way cheaper too.
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I have a Pocket Coil, and from my experience Pocket Coils or Memory foam will only be as good as the base you put them on.
If you get one of those metal frames with 6 legs, your springs wont bounce, but your whole bed can shake.
as an aside I at first read the title as Jimmy Long Legs. I was going to tell you that you can actually buy beds that are 4" longer and 4" narrower than normal King Mattresses, they are hard to find but they are called California Kings. Its also vary hard to find sheets for them.
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I have a friend that is the Western Canada rep for a major mattress company. After talking to her I am blown away at how high the retail mark up is on those things.
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I have a friend that is the Western Canada rep for a major mattress company. After talking to her I am blown away at how high the retail mark up is on those things.
Based on everything I've heard about sleep country, if you didn't get 50-60% off the regular price and maybe pillows or something, you're being hosed.
Couple years old, but as far as I know, still valid.
DoubleF's dumb story about haggling.
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My SO and I tried this once to see if this forum talk was true and to see if we were any good at haggling. Furthermore, her father had walked away with a King Koil for 65% off in Sask. We were able to get the mattress down 40% from listed price just sitting on the one we liked (memory foam) and chatting about dumb stuff for an hour and insisting on sitting on and "trying out" a specific mattress. No negotiation skills necessary. I'm pretty darn sure you can do this even on a tempurpedic even though the retail on some of those things is like 4-8 grand. You probably need at least some level of minuscule negotiation skills for the last 10% ish.
IIRC They start removing stuff like bed boxes and bed frames and add random manufacturer rebates they "suddenly found" and decrease warranty etc. We never bought that bed, but just an anecdote about how seriously easy it is to knock down prices at sleep country. They guy was seriously trying to sell us Tempurpedic too. Just for being stubborn on the one bed, he was telling us he was willing to knock off 15-20% on the lower end tempurpedic based on the initial "What are you looking to spend" convo. (I think we told him $900 and targeted a $1700 memory foam. I think a tempurpedic was going for $2200 and he brought it down to $1700 ish which was the listed price of the one we were sitting on and said he was doing us a favor because we looked nice?) He even knocked delivery down to $50 and refused to go free because he claimed they hire a third party to do it, but would knock of an additional $50 on the mattress. Isn't that the same thing?
All in all, worth doing once or twice just for fun. I didn't even feel bad and I hate bargaining. He came to us and knocked down the price while we chatted about life on a mattress in a store.
My SO and I tried this autumn 2013 in both 17th ave sleep country and Royal Oak location. Royal Oak was about 45% off, and 17th ave guy gave 35% and refused to budge after my SO accidentally let it slip we came from the Royal Oak location. (He demanded to see the card of the guy who haggled with us in a rude way so I claimed I didn't have it with me even though it was in my pocket)
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Wow, so much good information, thanks all. We were originally going to try and buy it at the Bay since we have a few grand in gift certificates/returned gifts left over from the wedding. Anyone have experience with buying beds from there?
I see their Tempurpedic isn't on sale with the current "Bay Days". Is "tight top" the knock off name other brands use? We aren't limited to the Bay but it would be helpful.. I am sure we can find something else to spend the gift certificates on there.
But if you had to recommend a few based on our circumstances which would you pick from their list?
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