08-11-2005, 06:09 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: ---
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Was at Silvercity today and saw a sign outside that said it was illegal to download movies on the net, I was always under the impression that it was okay in Canada. Can anyone clarify?
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08-11-2005, 06:13 PM
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#2
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Movies are definetley illegal.
I don't believe music is however,
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08-11-2005, 07:48 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Yawwwwwwwn. Scare tactics...
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08-11-2005, 10:18 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Calgary, AB
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hmm thought d/ling in canada was not illegal
is TORRENT considered p2p?
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08-11-2005, 10:28 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Why am I paying $11 or 12 of 13 or whatever it is to go watch a freaking comedy that cost whatever the actors salary it is plus a bag of pucks to make?
I'm voting with my ass from now on and not paying 11 bucks to go see a comedy that cost 20 million to make.
These f'n studios are screwing themselves. If they keep making remakes and crappy comedies the sheeple are going to eventually catch on and stop going to see movies. Actually I think this is already starting to happen, people are going to stop going to movies or seek out an alternative. The alternative is downloading movies.
I don't do it because I'm too impatient but I can see how some would.
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08-12-2005, 01:51 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: 30 minutes from the Red Mile
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Who gives a flying fata if it's illegal or not? It's not like the CSIS or the RCMP will actually have the resources to be on you ass unlike the CIA and FBI in the States. Have you ever heard of anyone in Canada getting arrested and prosecuted for downloading? The old cliche applies here: Nothing is illegal unless you're caught.
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08-12-2005, 04:16 AM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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This thread is hilarious. I can't believe people believing downloading movies could possibly be legal.
Music was for a time, in the ambiguous catagory of legal due to the levy placed on audio-recording mediums including devices with harddrive, flash memory, tapes, CDs, DVDs, MDs, and any other variety of optical audio storage. This levy nolonger exists and music is now ambiguously in the illegal catagory also.
This never applied to any other icopywrited materials including movies and the protection against music was fuzzy at best. Why anybody would assume movies were legal to download is hilarious. That's totally crazy!!! Of course Torrent is P2P! And being P2P has nothing to do with the legality of the situation!
The only legal methods of downloading are from the authorized sites that actually own the rights to said works or pay royalties for offering them. *HINT* they cost you money. IE: itunes.
torrents, kazaa, etc. blah blah blah are not illegal in themselves, but you infringe upon the law when you share or transmit copyrighted materials to others. The catch is that they'll probably never prosecute you because it's too much trouble...well the Recording Industry Association of America (it's Canadian counter-part is trying the same tactic) did get the courts to authorize the release of IPs by the ISPs of various people (like 12 year old girls) who shared music over Sharman Network's Kazaa. Napster died a similar death years ago because it was too centralized.
The beauty of torrents is that it's completely decentralized. There's nowhere to hunt except for the sites that actually host the torrent files...but those will eventually become free-floating too.
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08-12-2005, 08:16 AM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally posted by Hack&Lube@Aug 12 2005, 04:16 AM
The beauty of torrents is that it's completely decentralized. There's nowhere to hunt except for the sites that actually host the torrent files...but those will eventually become free-floating too.
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Actually I've known a couple of people that have got letters from their ISPs on behalf of movie studios after being in a torrent for a movie. While it is decentralized, it isn't anonymous.
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08-12-2005, 08:50 AM
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#10
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
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Quote:
Originally posted by Hack&Lube@Aug 12 2005, 04:16 AM
This thread is hilarious. I can't believe people believing downloading movies could possibly be legal.
Music was for a time, in the ambiguous catagory of legal due to the levy placed on audio-recording mediums including devices with harddrive, flash memory, tapes, CDs, DVDs, MDs, and any other variety of optical audio storage. This levy nolonger exists and music is now ambiguously in the illegal catagory also.
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Somebody better tell that to London Drugs then.
http://www.londondrugs.com/Cultures/en-US/...ers/cd_levy.htm
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08-12-2005, 12:24 PM
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#11
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: ---
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Quote:
Originally posted by Incinerator@Aug 12 2005, 12:51 AM
Who gives a flying fata if it's illegal or not? It's not like the CSIS or the RCMP will actually have the resources to be on you ass unlike the CIA and FBI in the States. Have you ever heard of anyone in Canada getting arrested and prosecuted for downloading? The old cliche applies here: Nothing is illegal unless you're caught.
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Sorry man, I normally thrash the RCMP and CPS for crap, but the RCMP has the best computers and best people working there with the most knowledge in possibly the world. These guys spend their days finding new ways to hack into things and than watch for them. When's the last time there was a big virus or website crash of a canadian website? there hasn't been any recently because the RCMP division caught on and stopped it before it could do any damage. The RCMP has actually been asked to assist the FBI and such into certain computer endeavors.
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