Utah's House of Representatives Votes to Bring Back Firing Squads - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

rubecube · 02-13-2015, 07:16 PM

I'm sure you'll never guess which party passed the bill.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/..._medium=social

sureLoss · 02-13-2015, 07:24 PM

Stuff like this was inevitable with the companies refusing to make lethal injection drugs.

rubecube · 02-13-2015, 07:26 PM

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Stuff like this was inevitable with the companies refusing to make lethal injection drugs.

They could just join the rest of the decent, developed world and stop using the death penalty

sureLoss · 02-13-2015, 07:55 PM

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They could just join the rest of the decent, developed world and stop using the death penalty

They could but they won't. Unfortunately removing one way to execute someone isn't an effective way to abolish capital punishment.

Vulcan · 02-13-2015, 08:03 PM

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They could but they won't. Unfortunately removing one way to execute someone isn't an effective way to abolish capital punishment.

It makes it more difficult and makes them examine their policy while the drug manufacturers don't have the blood on their hands. If they have problems rounding up marksmen this will also make it more difficult.

scotty2hotty · 02-13-2015, 08:09 PM

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It makes it more difficult and makes them examine their policy while the drug manufacturers don't have the blood on their hands. If they have problems rounding up marksmen this will also make it more difficult.

I suspect this won't be a problem.

krynski · 02-13-2015, 08:12 PM

We go backwards in time once more. I doubt the US will ever ban capital punishment in my lifetime, but I sincerely hope for it.

I can't imagine how people would be able to point a gun at another and pull the trigger, but I also can't imagine someone emptying the syringe of anaesthetic overdose. It would certainly take a specific kind of person to do it.

scotty2hotty · 02-13-2015, 08:19 PM

Agreed.

But put a murderer or child rapist on death row in the US and I'd bet you'd have a list of trigger happy applicants 10 000 strong.

Fire of the Phoenix · 02-13-2015, 08:30 PM

What a messed up country, I'm sure glad I don't live there. The top 3 values of the US as a whole would have to be: 1) money 2) guns 3) stomping on poor people

A truly evil empire if there ever was one. Their actions are literally the oposite of the Christian values they hold so dear. But I guess that's the point. Orwell was more right than he could've ever imagined.

btimbit · 02-13-2015, 08:49 PM

What year is it?

Wow

Mr.Coffee · 02-13-2015, 08:55 PM

At the end of the day though, is it really all that different than lethal injection? The death penalty is the death penalty. You are killing somebody. Is it "pain" that is the differentiator, or just how gruesome one's death is? I'm not sure you feel too much pain getting a bullet in the head either, I suspect you don't feel much, really.

I would agree there is a difference between say, torturing someone and then killing them vs. the lethal injection. But a firing squad seems just as quick / painless as a lethal injection.

Dion · 02-13-2015, 09:08 PM

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He proceeded with a two-minute graphic description of the exact process of death by firing squad, calling it a "cold-blooded execution."

"We decided back in 2004 that using a firing squad to murder individuals was barbaric, it's not something we could afford to do," he said. "Why are we bringing it back? Don't we care about how Utah is perceived in the country and in this world in terms of how it deals with heinous crimes?"

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"If we do this, if you think that we have problems with air quality and other things with the image of the state of Utah, to bring back the firing squad would be going down that path," said Rep. Stephen Handy, R-Layton.

http://www.sltrib.com/home/2178285-1...ses-utah-house

Flames_Gimp · 02-13-2015, 09:15 PM

i like this! bullets are cheap!

T@T · 02-14-2015, 03:02 AM

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What a messed up country, I'm sure glad I don't live there. The top 3 values of the US as a whole would have to be: 1) money 2) guns 3) stomping on poor people

A truly evil empire if there ever was one. Their actions are literally the oposite of the Christian values they hold so dear. But I guess that's the point. Orwell was more right than he could've ever imagined.

Why would you say that? throughout history Christian values mean jack s*** and are full of barbaric violence.

T@T · 02-14-2015, 03:12 AM

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I'm not sure you feel too much pain getting a bullet in the head either.

Probably doesn't matter much but I'm certain they have 4 or 5 people shoot you in the heart not the head. I also heard one of the executioners actually fires a blank so they all believe they may not have killed the person.

To Be Quite Honest · 02-14-2015, 03:12 AM

I think this is a smart idea. I'm sure many of you can remember the time when your sitting in that room alone. The uncomfortable sounds fill your ear when normally you wouldn't notice. The hum of the florescent lights, the mouse in the small hole in the wall. And those bloody flies trapped in the light fixture. So annoying. Just get on with it already. Then it happens and the manager comes in sits down and tells you that you job is over. You'd think to your self, "That's it? That's why I waited five minutes in this fricking office to here. After 10 years of my life, I'm fired?" It could get pretty dngerous and violent, especially if there are money problems or your spouse is cheating on you with your best friend. It's best to do these things with a squad. Safer, and really ... more humane.

rubecube · 02-14-2015, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

I think this is a smart idea. I'm sure many of you can remember the time when your sitting in that room alone. The uncomfortable sounds fill your ear when normally you wouldn't notice. The hum of the florescent lights, the mouse in the small hole in the wall. And those bloody flies trapped in the light fixture. So annoying. Just get on with it already. Then it happens and the manager comes in sits down and tells you that you job is over. You'd think to your self, "That's it? That's why I waited five minutes in this fricking office to here. After 10 years of my life, I'm fired?" It could get pretty dngerous and violent, especially if there are money problems or your spouse is cheating on you with your best friend. It's best to do these things with a squad. Safer, and really ... more humane.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=138587

SportsJunky · 02-14-2015, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

What a messed up country, I'm sure glad I don't live there. The top 3 values of the US as a whole would have to be: 1) money 2) guns 3) stomping on poor people

A truly evil empire if there ever was one. Their actions are literally the oposite of the Christian values they hold so dear. But I guess that's the point. Orwell was more right than he could've ever imagined.

TorqueDog · 02-14-2015, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

What a messed up country, I'm sure glad I don't live there. The top 3 values of the US as a whole would have to be: 1) money 2) guns 3) stomping on poor people

A truly evil empire if there ever was one. Their actions are literally the oposite of the Christian values they hold so dear. But I guess that's the point. Orwell was more right than he could've ever imagined.

So they should have voted to bring back crucifixion or stoning?

Fire of the Phoenix · 02-14-2015, 08:08 AM

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So they should have voted to bring back crucifixion or stoning?

How about just stop murdering people regardless of how? Obviously won't happen as they love their revenge justice too much. Funny how Canada can have such a low crime rate without executing people...