Firefighter blasts 'stupidity' of Man Who Ventured on to River Ice

[chemgear]

Normally, I'd joke most things in Edmonton are No Good. But kudos to this fire captain for tearing a strip off this moron. I feel bad they had to waste resources and taxpayer money from preventing Darwin from culling the herd. Too many stupid people doing the same crap in Calgary too.

Video is in the link.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/firefig...-ice-1.2214607

"You know your stupidity cost us a lot of s***," Grotski passionately explains in the video. "What happens if you go through that ice? And now we gotta try to save your a** and we put ourselves in danger because we don't even know who you are but you're out there doing stupid s***."

[Dan02]

coles notes,

someone called the firefighters for no reason. firefighter has anger issues.

[btimbit]

Good on the firefighter.

Dumb #### wasting time and money

[Minnie]

Aside from the fact that every once in a while, someone needs to be really plainspoken about things like this (good for the firefighter), I feel for those in rescue services in Edmonton right now - they had a guy kill himself on the job the same day as Constable Wynn's funeral. They are pretty raw right now - might have played into his reaction, a bit.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Dan02

coles notes,

someone called the firefighters for no reason. firefighter has anger issues.

I have to agree. As a Captain in Calgary I would never treat or talk to someone like that. We get called all the time to calls where people should know better but for whatever reason they don't. Lighten up bud.

Edit: Minnie, I know the story, it was a paramedic who took his own life in the firehall.
A medic at my hall knew him, he was pretty shaken up. Sad story.

[Minnie]

Well, should you ever want to chew someone out for acting like a complete dumbass by dicking around on the ice like that, you'd have my support. Sometimes, I think the vernacular has to be that plain.

I'm sorry your friend is experiencing such grief (that all of you are dealing with this, really). The job cannot be easy and I cannot even imagine the things you guys see on the daily.

[Tyler]

Utmost respect for first responders, but you don't get to pick and choose who you save here, no matter how dumb they are.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Utmost respect for first responders, but you don't get to pick and choose who you save here, no matter how dumb they are.

Notice how no first responders said that they wouldn't help the person, no matter how dumb what they are doing is? It's just that they spend a lot of time, money and resources helping people who, if they spent 2 seconds actually thinking about the stupid thing they were about to do and had some common sense...wouldn't do the stupid thing they are doing.

While the Captain's frustration is understandable, he did let it get the better of him.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

Notice how no first responders said that they wouldn't help the person, no matter how dumb what they are doing is? It's just that they spend a lot of time, money and resources helping people who, if they spent 2 seconds actually thinking about the stupid thing they were about to do and had some common sense...wouldn't do the stupid thing they are doing.

As has been the case since the profession was created.

"If people weren't dumb our jobs would be easier". Really? YOU DON'T SAY?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Utmost respect for first responders, but you don't get to pick and choose who you save here, no matter how dumb they are.

Sure, completely agreed. But at the same time nobody says they cant vent some frustration afterwards. Plus its educational for all involved.

"What you did was clownshoes and you put other people's lives at risk through your sheer unadulterated stupidity. Do you understand that now? Good, it had better never happen again."

[Coach]

Agree with most here and have no problem with the fire fighter chewing out the guy after the incident was concluded. Of course they can't pick and choose who to save, but people CAN pick and choose what they do, and if you do something stupid that puts others lives at risk and needlessly blows resources, you deserve a good smack upside the head after the firefighter has saved your ass. These people signed up to save people from real dangers, not their own stupidity.

[CaptainYooh]

Next up:

Edmonton Fire Department and the City of Edmonton are sued for $5,000,000 in damages arising from publicly humiliating and psychologically traumatizing a man wondering onto the river ice by accident...

[Plett25]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Agree with most here and have no problem with the fire fighter chewing out the guy after the incident was concluded. Of course they can't pick and choose who to save, but people CAN pick and choose what they do, and if you do something stupid that puts others lives at risk and needlessly blows resources, you deserve a good smack upside the head after the firefighter has saved your ass. These people signed up to save people from real dangers, not their own stupidity.

IMO if we could magically outlaw stupidity, 90% of cops, firefighters, paramedics, doctors and nurses would be out of work tomorrow.

This guy basically works in a stupidity based industry, and he's complaining about stupidity. It's like a cabbie complaining that people always want to driven to different places.

[Coach]

I don't look at like complaining as much as scolding. Idiots need to be scolded or they remain idiots.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Plett25

IMO if we could magically outlaw stupidity, 90% of cops, firefighters, paramedics, doctors and nurses would be out of work tomorrow.

This guy basically works in a stupidity based industry, and he's complaining about stupidity. It's like a cabbie complaining that people always want to driven to different places.

I was thinking in the same lines. There are emergencies and there are emergencies, but in the end, they are all emergencies; that's what these guys are hired and respected for - saving lives. How is having to save this idiot different from having to engage multiple crews, helicopters and heavy machinery to save someone who fell off the cliff while snowboarding?

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I don't look at like complaining as much as scolding. Idiots need to be scolded or they remain idiots.

I doubt idiots are going to learn, if they were they wouldn't be idiots.

[4X4]

I don't see what's wrong with a firefighter telling an idiot that he endangers more lives than just his when he does stupid things. It's not like there's a cutoff age where people can finally smarten up. Maybe this scolding got through to him like a lot of people remember getting told by someone older than them, back in the day. I got my scolding when I was about 13. It got through.

Some of you guys seem to think that just because he's a firefighter, he has to embrace the stupid. No, he has to accept it, but not embrace it.

I've got about as much sympathy for a guy like this as I do for all the idiots that used to drown at the weir.

[btimbit]

A tad unprofessional maybe but hes absolutely right.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by chummer

I have to agree. As a Captain in Calgary I would never treat or talk to someone like that. We get called all the time to calls where people should know better but for whatever reason they don't. Lighten up bud.
.

You'll make a great Assistant Deputy Chief some day.

[RougeUnderoos]

Oh man, this whole thing made me laugh.

His name is Wayne Grotski. Captain Wayne Grotski. So awesome. I hope, when they got back to the firehouse, they ordered some Indian food from Jari Curry.

And I like to think that the same audio could be used later in the broadcast, during the sports.

... "you're out there running around, doing stupid ##### on the ice, it's dangerous, and we have to save you, what are you thinking?"