Future high school to be moved from seton to legacy

[stampsx2]

The catholic school board has decided to move a proposed high school from Seton in the southeast to the community of Legacy in the southwest for 2017-18. Changes are being made because the area in seton being developed by brookfield isn't going to have the required infrastructure in place by the build date

The location makes very little sense since there's already two other high schools within a few km's. The high school being built in the southwest will serve mostly southeast residents.

Kids are already facing bus rides up to an hour and a half and this isn't going to help with that or in reducing traffic congestion.

http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/126...c-high-school/

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...ol-site-change

[Tyler]

So they're building it where there is accommodating infrastructure to support a High School. Makes complete sense.

[Rhettzky]

Legacy is in the Southeast, just barely but that counts!

[btimbit]

Legacy is pretty close to Bishop O'Byrne, an existing catholic school, but if there's not enough infrastructure in Seton to have one there (Which I can see, that area's going to be a mess) then what can you do?

[Northendzone]

This is crappy news as we live in new Brighton and my son is in grade 7

[stampsx2]

Originally Posted by Tyler

So they're building it where there is accommodating infrastructure to support a High School. Makes complete sense.

Even if there's two already there?

[Calgary14]

What is the projected population of Legacy vs Seton?

[Aeneas]

Maybe I need to get out more, but I have never heard of Legacy.

[calgarygeologist]

It makes no sense to move this school out of the SE. Legacy is fairly easy to access but considering the huge population in McKenzie, Seton, Cranston and all those other communities it should be built within that area.

It has been a while since I've lived in the deep south so I'm not even familiar with where the city limit is. When I was down there the limit was a little past Chapparal. Is it now somewhere between Legacy and Heritage Pointe?

[stampsx2]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

It makes no sense to move this school out of the SE. Legacy is fairly easy to access but considering the huge population in McKenzie, Seton, Cranston and all those other communities it should be built within that area.

Correct me if i'm wrong but wouldn't it support the communities of:

Mackenzie towne -18,000
New brighton - 7,000
Douglasdale - 12,000
Mackenzie lake - 14,000
Copperfield -7,000
Auburn - 9,000
Cranston - 11,000
Mahogany -25,000 at build out
And a couple new communities to be built in the area

So would serve about 100,000 residents

[Peanut]

The whole situation is ridiculous. Kids are facing bus rides up to an hour and a half because a) their parents chose to move to an area where the nearest school with space is apparently a 1.5 hour bus ride away and b) the CBE/catholic board process is totally decoupled from the community development process as far as I can tell (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm ill-informed). The developers need to be on the hook for something here, too. Especially if they sell people a "school will be located here and ready by..." line to convince them to build in their communities in the first place.

[stampsx2]

Originally Posted by Peanut

The whole situation is ridiculous. Kids are facing bus rides up to an hour and a half because a) their parents chose to move to an area where the nearest school with space is apparently a 1.5 hour bus ride away and b) the CBE/catholic board process is totally decoupled from the community development process as far as I can tell (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm ill-informed). The developers need to be on the hook for something here, too. Especially if they sell people a "school will be located here and ready by..." line to convince them to build in their communities in the first place.

So if you have kids you shouldn't live anywhere in the southeast because there are no schools there? I guess we can get rid of the playgrounds.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Kids are facing bus rides up to an hour and a half because a) their parents chose to move to an area where the nearest school with space is apparently a 1.5 hour bus ride away

The portion above is the problem in and of itself. Buying in suburbia on a hope and a prayer.

Seriously though, I remember back in the 1990's when the big claim was that the East Village would very quickly be this super hip and cool development area for young people and families. Funnily enough, I hear that story even now.

[MG153]

As someone who has recently moved into legacy. I too think this is pretty rediculous.
The community is only in early stages and will be years away from requiring schools. The population between Legacy, Walden, Chaparral etc will in No way compare to the demand for schools in the Cranston/ Auburn area. Bishop O'Byrne and Centennial are a mere 5 min drive away.
As for complaining about the bus rides... really? i can drive to auburn bay in under 10 mins so saying it would be an hour plus each way is tad ridiculous. My commute from Sundance to Beaverbrook back in the day, was hardly an hour. Besides this is a high school, not 7 year olds riding the bus I'm sure teenagers will mange, and half the kids will have cars daddy bought them to drive to school anyways, if not you can use it as an incentive for your kid to get a job and get their own car
People cannot move into these newer areas of the city and expect schools to magically pop up as soon as their children are of age to need them. Beaverbrook was the most Populated high school in western Canada when i attended (class of 04) and it still took them years after to approve Centennial's Construction despite the thousands of kids in the area that could have used it.

[taco.vidal]

Blame the builders/developers and unfortunately the buyers as well. Builders/developers make promises that others will have to come through on (ie. the builders aren't the ones who are responsible for the schools they promise) while buyers believe anything the hear because they want to believe they are buying into a utopia.

Im amazed how far south the city has sprawled. Legacy is starting to encroach onto Heritage Pointe and even DeWinton. This is could be great if you work in the south like at the new hospital but I do have a couple of coworkers who commute in from Heritage Pointe into downtown. Yeesh!!!
The north is bad too. I can't believe people live NE of the airport. Redstone and Skyview, are those the ones out there? Yeesh.

[MG153]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

Blame the builders/developers and unfortunately the buyers as well. Builders/developers make promises that others will have to come through on (ie. the builders aren't the ones who are responsible for the schools they promise) while buyers believe anything the hear because they want to believe they are buying into a utopia.

Im amazed how far south the city has sprawled. Legacy is starting to encroach onto Heritage Pointe and even DeWinton. This is could be great if you work in the south like at the new hospital but I do have a couple of coworkers who commute in from Heritage Pointe into downtown. Yeesh!!!
The north is bad too. I can't believe people live NE of the airport. Redstone and Skyview, are those the ones out there? Yeesh.

Yeah Basically Every new community sets aside land for schools, but that doesnt mean the province has to build one there unfortunately.

and yes, legacy backs onto the same pine creek valley that heritage point does. the latter phases will back onto parts of the golf course, and its honestly faster for me to drive to the car wash in dewinton then back into shawnessy.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

So if you have kids you shouldn't live anywhere in the southeast because there are no schools there? I guess we can get rid of the playgrounds.

Anywhere in the southeast? Or do you mean anywhere in the southeast like south of, say, Sundance? Or Douglasdale? Because the "southeast" includes tons of communities that have existing schools; schools that are walking distance from homes and schools that aren't full.

I get what you are saying, though. The developers have a responsibility which I outlined in my point b) that you edited out. I'm just saying that these families facing "1.5 hour bus rides" for their kids also made a choice. This didn't just "happen" to them. There were no schools available when they made the choice to move to these communities and the schools are still not available and, obviously and somewhat unfortunately, not guaranteed to be built as may have been advertised by the developer and/or real estate agent.

[psicodude]

i think it's important to note that the proposed school was technically being built in Range View, not Seton. Range View was just approved by the city last fall and has no concrete dates for when basic services such as utilities and roads will be available. The larger problem here is that the other Catholic high schools in the South are pretty much at capacity already and will only be worse in the coming years. So, do you gamble on the better location and possibly not having a high school for 5 or 7 years, or build in a less desirable location with a guaranteed opening of Sept 2017?

I think they made the logical choice, and I live in Cranston. I also think that people are way over-estimating the commute time here as well. McKenzie Towne to Legacy is 10 minutes at worst. Heck, I could drive the entire ring-road in 1.5 hours.

[Maccalus]

It will still be funny to see Legacy......100 houses and a massive high school

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Maccalus

It will still be funny to see Legacy......100 houses and a massive high school

Having all those trouble makers coming to the community for high school will probably lower property values. The kids will be racing up and down the streets and spraying graffiti every where.