Questions from a Quebec resident, wanting to move to Alberta

[Royal Eagle]

I'm trying to get the hell out of that social cesspool named Quebec.

This is a society in profound, irreversible decline, a society that has the lowest birthrate in the entire world, the oldest province in Canada (where the average resident is over 40-45 year old), the most welfare recipients in Canada, the highest suicide rate in males aged 18-25, one of the highest suicide rate in men period, strong and potent feminist/leftist brainwashing in every area of society, big ass unions, big government, separatists, foreign investments impossible because of separatists, foreign, multinational companies refusing to go to Quebec because of separatists, heavy protectionnism and strong xenophobic/nationalist sentiments directed unfairly against anyone that is different of french-canadians.

They try to lowkey blame the ills of Quebec society on newcomers and anyone not french-canadian...ridiculous!

The worst : Quebec citizens pay the most taxes in North America, and the social services, the services from the government suck. We pay a lot but get nothing in return. Pure precarity. The healthcare system sucks too, we dont even have a private healthcare system....

I see a lot of highly qualified immigrants from france, belgium, north africa, sub-saharan africa struggling to get their competences recognized by Quebec employers, competences/knowledge that they acquired with the help of rigourous education and training in universities in Europe, and work experience. They seduce immigrants by saying that Quebec needs them, that Quebec makes the american dream in french possible, basically saying that Quebec is the perfect place ever. And these french and belgian people, these francophones all over, they buy into the propaganda and think they can have a good life there...no! Quebec's work field is extremely closed off to immigrants, especially if they are highly qualified. The local workers are obviously less-qualified than these immigrants, they know it and make sure to block their advancements. They claim to need french-speaking immigration, as a way to reinforce their culture..but its false! They are ignorant xenophobes and hate everything not local. They hate french people from france, blacks, arabs, muslims, anglophone canadians(they hate Ontario/ Alberta with passion), americans, jews, etc...


That province is corrupted, bankrupt, badly managed by a outdated caste of greedy, senile, ignorant, incompetent baby-boomers. Quebec combines the worst of socialism and capitalism, brehs. Its nice here on the short term, if you want to enjoy life as a unapologetic hedonist, with beautiful french-canadian brunettes with blue/brown eyes, decent restaurants, a cool party atmosphere, and lovely women of other countries. Its fun and we have a winning hockey team..but on the longterm, for serious things(raising a family, getting a longterm, solid job, honesty from government, longterm friendships) it sucks.

Note: I'm not a french-canadian/purelaine Québécois! I speak french, because I had to, the 101 law said that children of immigrants(my case)

(and children of native french-canadians too) HAVE to learn french, and attend exclusively french-speaking schools until cegeps(college) Its a way to preserve the culture of Quebec

I heard how well Alberta is doing. My friends in Southern Ontario, they are all speaking about the remarkable economic prosperity of Alberta, affordable life, abundant employment, low cost of life, the oil sands, etc. A lot of people in Quebec too. I dont want to leave Canada, I was born here and this is my country. Alberta is where I want to live, the taxation system seems reasonable, etc but I am afraid to go there and see that the Alberta boom is over...pleasure reassure me...

I really want to escape Quebec, I feel that I dont have a future here. I aint paying healthcare taxes for old ass baby-boomers xenophobic, two-faced hypocrites ala Lapierre, Tremblay, Gaudreaults. In a struggling local quebec economy with few jobs available(you need to have a lot of contacts to be hired in any field, they dont care about your degrees/diplomas here, who you know > what you know)


I will even go to freaking edmonton if its decent economically there...everything to leave this cursed province!

Thanks in advance gentlemen !

[blankall]

I'd attempt to have a job lined up before moving out west. If your plan is to look for work in the oil industry, I'd strongly recommend having a skill.

[burn_this_city]

Your timing isn't great depending on your field. If you work in a recession proof industry you'll probably be ok.

[WCW Nitro]

I probably wouldn't say all that at the job interview when asked why you left Quebec.

[SportsJunky]

You will miss the French girls!

[Jacks]

Ya, kind of crappy timing, who knows what this year is going to be like with oil prices cratering, it has to affect our economy and therefore job prospects. Also, we are certainly a low tax environment but the cost of living isn't low here. I don't know what costs are like in Quebec though so maybe it would seem low to you.

Originally Posted by Royal Eagle

They are ignorant xenophobes and hate everything not local. They hate french people from france, blacks, arabs, muslims, anglophone canadians(they hate Ontario/ Alberta with passion), americans, jews, etc...


That province is corrupted, bankrupt, badly managed by a outdated caste of greedy, senile, ignorant, incompetent baby-boomers.

I couldn't help but picture this while reading

Spoiler!

[Drummer]

I wonder what a person from Quebec living in Alberta would say if they were asked the same question? That is, if they were moving back to Quebec from AB.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Royal Eagle

I heard how well Alberta is doing. My friends in Southern Ontario, they are all speaking about the remarkable economic prosperity of Alberta, affordable life, abundant employment, low cost of life, the oil sands, etc.

Calgary has higher cost of living than Montreal, and Edmonton is about the same I thought.

At least before the oil collapse...

[-TC-]

Edmonton isn't being hit by oil as bad as Calgary. The economy isn't as dependent, Edmonton is more government and education driven economy with a strong industrial base.

It has a strong arts scene, reasonable cost of living, and low unemployment.

It's not awful.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Royal Eagle

I aint paying healthcare taxes for old ass baby-boomers xenophobic, two-faced hypocrites ala Lapierre, Tremblay, Gaudreaults.

Yeah, cause Alberta has never contributed to social programs in Quebec!

Originally Posted by Royal Eagle

In a struggling local quebec economy with few jobs available(you need to have a lot of contacts to be hired in any field, they dont care about your degrees/diplomas here, who you know > what you know)

Who you know will always be more important.

Maybe getting out of Quebec will be good for you, considering how much disdain you have. I just think you may be disappointed with your expectations.

[Sylvanfan]

Funny thing is many construction subcontracts in Alberta are going to Quebec. I know Quebec steel manufacturers are dominating the market place in Edmonton, and are big players anywhere that permits them to operate.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Royal Eagle

My friends in Southern Ontario, they are all speaking about the remarkable economic prosperity of Alberta, affordable life, abundant employment, low cost of life, the oil sands, etc. A lot of people in Quebec too. I dont want to leave Canada, I was born here and this is my country.

I'm not sure when your friends were here, but I would definitely not say that the cost of living in Alberta ( and particularly Calgary) is low by any means...especially when it comes to housing (and especially when you compare it to a place like Montreal which probably has the cheapest big-city rent in Canada). Apart from the low taxes, I find most things in Calgary, whether it be restaurants/bars, services, parking, groceries etc., to be quite expensive.

[Ashartus]

I know lots of people who have moved here from Quebec (including my wife) and never met one who regretted the move. However, as others have suggested, particularly right now, you might want to have a job lined up.

[T@T]

Personally I think it's not going to be the best time to move to Alberta, have you considered going east?, St.John's and Halifax will likely have a better economy in 2015, especially the last half.

[vanisleflamesfan]

Wow that's a lot of Quebec hatred; you sound like an Albertan already! You'll fit in just fine here.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by vanisleflamesfan

Wow that's a lot of Quebec hatred; you sound like an Albertan already! You'll fit in just fine here.

[GGG]

What is your educational background. Outside of oil cratering if you are not in the oil industry your salary to living cost needs to be looked at fairly carefully when considering making the switch.

Your healthcare issues will not be solved by Alberta but your dislike of French will be

[Locke]

You picked literally the worst possible time.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by GGG

What is your educational background. Outside of oil cratering if you are not in the oil industry your salary to living cost needs to be looked at fairly carefully when considering making the switch.

Your healthcare issues will not be solved by Alberta but your dislike of French will be

Yeah, for us to give you advice or comment (other than, "boo, Quebec" which is always a good time), we really need some more information about you. Age/education/job experience/family etc. I'd give pretty different advice to a 22 year old graduate with no responsibilities except for student loans than I would a 55 year old with a family and mortgage.

YMMV

[DuffMan]

Expect to pay about $1,000/per month more in day care if you have kids.