Calgary's new gated, island community

[Calgary14]

Plans are underway to build a gated island community in the deep south.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/12...e-despite-ban/

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Did a Councillor use the term, "###### move"?

[nik-]

First off

LOL at a gated community in Calgary

Second

LOL at people who are likely going to get bent over on prices for a stream sized slice of water on an artificial lake.

Third

LOL at the people who bought "lakefront" and now will be staring at another house for their view.

[browna]

“Kind of a ###### move. And if people want to make that ###### move, good for them,” Carra said during the meeting.

With on-the-record language like that, people in this guy's ward should be ashamed to call him their city representative.

[Northendzone]

Nice....which 22 members of this board are going to live on this island.....

[Bunk]

I'm just trying to fathom who they mean to keep out. Are there scores of people trying to enter random cul-de-sacs to cause trouble that I don't know about?

[TurdFerguson]

If it manages to keep the Vivint security sales people out then they've won.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Bunk

I'm just trying to fathom who they mean to keep out. Are there scores of people trying to enter random cul-de-sacs to cause trouble that I don't know about?

Just throwing up a gate as marketing tool as to a feeling of exclusivity moreso than any safety issues. Though, exclusivity would be better served by putting only 10-12 lots on that island instead of 22 and charging a higher price for having a larger lot then a lake side house on the "mainland".

The closest island lot, looks like about 100 ft or less from the closest normal lake lot..in winter, that's a pretty easy walk across the ice, or a quick swim if you were really hell bent on getting to the island if you had questionable intentions.

I can only think of one other gated community off the top of my head in Calgary...on Elbow Dr, on west side, near 58th Ave, by the Calgary G&CC, those I believe those are attached homes, maybe even "Mature living".

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Bunk

I'm just trying to fathom who they mean to keep out. Are there scores of people trying to enter random cul-de-sacs to cause trouble that I don't know about?

Especially in friggin Mahogany. Afraid a soccer mom might get too close to your house?

[Bob]

Will they let their kids go trick or treating outside the walls, or will it be the same 22 houses every year?

[transplant99]

Why did council ban gated communities to begin with? I mean...who cares?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Why did council ban gated communities to begin with? I mean...who cares?

I care. I'm not interested in our city starting American style financial segregation, especially when you can't even make 10% of the arguments that an American city can for having them.

[Kiran403]

Isn't McKenzie Lake Island already this? It's an island with a gated entrance.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Bunk

I'm just trying to fathom who they mean to keep out. Are there scores of people trying to enter random cul-de-sacs to cause trouble that I don't know about?

Politicians

[taco.vidal]

How do these gated communities as well as those elsewhere work in terms of tax payer dollars going for infrastructure and services in these communities? I somewhat have a problem with city dollars paying for infrastructure and services in the community but city residents don't have ability to access those roadways.

[Zarley]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

How do these gated communities as well as those elsewhere work in terms of tax payer dollars going for infrastructure and services in these communities? I somewhat have a problem with city dollars paying for infrastructure and services in the community but city residents don't have ability to access those roadways.

The development will likely be structured as a bare land condo with the roadway being common property split between the homeowners. Upkeep would be their responsibility and not the City's.

[Sliver]

That sounds awesome...I'd live there. Hopefully there would be super strict community standards that would force people to maintain their properties to a really high standard. Out of my price range, though, but a cool idea.

[Smartcar]

Originally Posted by Sliver

...super strict community standards that would force people to maintain their properties to a really high standard.

eg. - no dogs.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Hopewell and its partner home builders were marketing Mahogany’s island collection as exclusive private islands that will be “Calgary’s most remarkable new address.”

LOL. As much as Hopewell will try and spin this, there isn't going to be any prestige in saying you live in "Mahogany" vs Elbow Park / Mt Royal. That ain't impressing anyone at a party of the city's elite.

Besides, from what I can see, for the homes facing the "mainland" in summer / winter you're going to have people paddling/skating by your place during the day and looking in your windows. The lake is not a moat filled with crocodiles.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by browna

“Kind of a ###### move. And if people want to make that ###### move, good for them,” Carra said during the meeting.

With on-the-record language like that, people in this guy's ward should be ashamed to call him their city representative.

On the contrary, I like him even more.