Will Jones and Glencross be Flames next season?

[SeanCharles]

With all the prospects coming that will need NHL ice time, as well other factors such as age and injury history..

1. Will the Flames buyout the last remaining year of David Jones' contract?

2. Will Glencross be donning a different jersey next season?

Depth Chart (in no particular order):

Colbourne-Monahan-Raymond
Gaudreau-Bennett-Hudler
Baertschi-Backlund-Granlund
Bouma-Jooris-Ferland
Bollig-Stajan-Byron
Reinhart-Knight-Poirier
Agostino-Arnold-Hanowski
Wolf-Van Brabant-Carroll

[ForeverFlameFan]

Jones may be made of glass, but he's actually been playing some good hockey when healthy. Glencross is still a question mark. I wouldn't mind a one year deal, but if he really is chasing the money in UFA, then he can find it elsewhere.

[N-E-B]

I don't care what anyone says about Glencross, I want him back.

And for the record, "lazy" people don't make it to the NHL.

[SeanCharles]

I agree on Jones but a player being in and out of the lineup all the time isnt good for the player or the team. Sometimes this makes me worry that Backlund won't be part of the future..

[FlameZilla]

Jones will probably be around. He's useful when he's healthy and he can be a real handful for other teams to deal with.

For Glencross, it depends what money he's expecting. As of right now he doesn't deserve a raise, IMO. I've enjoyed his play this season more than I usually do, even though he hasn't produced much. Treliving probably offers him a similar contract to the one he's on, and uses it to gauge Glencross's reaction. If they're really far apart on a contract by the trade deadline he could be asked to waive the NMC.

I think we'll end up seeing him back on a deal with similar numbers to what he's on. The only way he deserves a big raise is if he manages to score 25 goals between now and the end of the season.

[madmike]

Not sure both of them will be gone - but the Flames can't really afford to drop salary at this point because they're so close to the floor. If Jones and/ or Glencross leave, the Flames need to add salary somewhere.

[killer_carlson]

i'm a big Glencross fan and think he is grossly underappreciated by CP.

As a Flames fan, I see tremendous value in his re-signing and taking on the top lines of opposing teams each night. I hope he resigns a 3 year contract.

As a Glencross fan, I hope he moves along because he gets nothing but _hit and abuse around here and he deserves much better.

[EldrickOnIce]

Magic 8-ball says..... Maybe

[djsFlames]

One of the two I'd say.

However this is a stupid question to ask when we have 2/3 of a season to yet to play out. Let's see how they do first...

[Wastedyouth]

I am a huge Glencross fan, and I think he should be traded at the deadline (if he will waive his NMC).

[Vulcan]

Lets see, Glencross our first line LW and Jones our first line RW should be dumped? The only way this should happen is if we have players ready to replace them and so far no one has taken their jobs.

[Poe969]

Not the whole "we need a first line replacement" argument again.... I will say that I don't think the Flames have an actual line structure in that one specific line is the first line as opposed to the next line. I'd argue that if that were the case, Johnny and Hudler are our first line wingers.

I will openly say that I don't want Glencross or Jones back but I could see both of them being back for a few more years still. And for people saying that we have to have them back or we wouldn't be as good....did you say the same thing about Cammy not being back because I think we're doing pretty darn good without him.

I'm just happy the decision isn't up to the fans because they're too emotional about it. When you have guys in charge who care more about a player then they do about the team, you get a result like the oilers.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Lets see, Glencross our first line LW and Jones our first line RW should be dumped? The only way this should happen is if we have players ready to replace them and so far no one has taken their jobs.

I only say he will be gone because I have a feeling CGY isn't gonna pay him what he wants.

[Husky]

While both are solid top 9 players, I am hoping the Flames can trade both; fill one position from within and the other a trade/free agent signing for a positional upgrade. Make a splash and bring in a legit upgrade.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I would consider Glencross to be a key transition veteran in this process, similar to Hudler. They may not be around when this team starts competing for a cup, but they are essential to play the tough minutes and provide veteran mentorship. I am torn on whether or not to resign Glencross because our left wing is so log jammed. Is he a true top line winger? Probably 2nd/3rd liner. I would be happy to give him a 2 or 3 year deal (without a NTC) at $5 million. We have the cap to use for those years without a lot of key RFAs coming up any time soon.

Jones is a guy that will likely play out his contract, and maybe get moved at next year's trade deadline. There's a couple reasons for this: 1) We have so few natural RWers in the organization, and especially few players with his size and style of game, 2) his contract is likely prohibitive for many teams to take it on, and 3) he's often injured, so it doesn't prohibit a prospect who is nearly NHL ready getting some games at the NHL to test themselves (Poirier).

The OP mentions our depth chart, but you have to remember that a lot of those guys won't ever become NHL regulars. The following list is where I think each of those prospects eventually plays in the NHL:

Gaudreau-Bennett-X
Granlund/Baertschi(big "if" on Baertschi)-X-Poirier
Klimchuk/Ferland-Arnold/Jooris-X
Hanowski/Agostino-Knight-Smith/Carroll

I think that top line RW gets filled by Hudler unless we find a better option through free agency.

Obviously the 2nd line center will be filled by Monahan.

You can slot Jones in that 3rd line slot until we find a suitable prospect or UFA replacement.

But looking at those left wingers (I think Granlund will eventually be moved to the wing) is Glencross better than any of them long term? I think Klimchuk is at least 2 years away after this season from being a regular, not that he's guaranteed to be an NHLer just yet. Bouma has the 4th line left wing sewn up for awhile. I think you can sign Glencross to a 2 year deal and put him on that 3rd line until Klimchuk is NHL ready. The problem then becomes, would Glencross stay on such a short term deal?

What it boils down to is the old adage: If you have time to make a decision, use it. I would like to revisit this conversation near the trade deadline, but for now they're both valuable pieces to the team and worth keeping around. If we end up losing Glencross to UFA, so be it. He doesn't owe us anything at this point.

[flambers]

No to both players, Glencross will leave and sign with the Ducks in the off season is my prediction.

[Textcritic]

I think they will both be with the Flames next year. Jones will be retained in part because this team still needs some help meeting the cap floor for another couple of seasons. I think Glencross wants to be here, and if this team competes for a playoff spot this year, then I predict that this will greatly incentivise him to stay, and for a reasonable dollar figure. If Glencross would sign a three year deal, then I think the Flames should keep him on.

[saillias]

I'm a little worried Glencross values playing in Alberta more than anything and the stupid ****ing Oilers will offer him 5 million a season.

[Finger Cookin]

With regards to the first post, I don't see Jones being bought out. Beyond that, I have no idea.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Why would the Flames buyout Jones' contract in any situation? Worst case scenario they'd send him to the minors and he wouldn't clear waivers if they decided he didn't have a place on this team, which I think is very unlikely.