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Old 09-25-2014, 04:41 PM   #1
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Icon34 Preds re-sign Ryan Ellis (5yrs, $2.5mil AAV)

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Ryan Ellis's new contract with NSH is for five years with an AAV of $2.5M.
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Old 09-25-2014, 04:42 PM   #2
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wow 5 years, didn't expect the term
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Old 09-25-2014, 04:43 PM   #3
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I'm pretty shocked at the discount here. 5 year term at bridge-contract rate? Ellis must be loving life in Nashville.
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Old 09-25-2014, 04:44 PM   #4
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Good deal. I like Ellis, seems like a good young d-man with great offensive upside.
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Old 09-25-2014, 04:46 PM   #5
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very strange term... Preds even take an UFA year
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Old 09-25-2014, 04:50 PM   #6
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Good deal for Preds. Surprised this is all it took
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Old 09-25-2014, 05:00 PM   #7
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signing makes a bit more sense from Ellis' perspective when you look at the yearly breakdown:

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I was just looking at his salary history and it got me curious - are signing bonuses paid out on entry level deals when they slide? It looks like he got a signing bonus split over three seasons on his deal, but it slid in each of the first two years. Did he get paid that bonus in the first two years?

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Old 09-25-2014, 05:07 PM   #9
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I was just looking at his salary history and it got me curious - are signing bonuses paid out on entry level deals when they slide? It looks like he got a signing bonus split over three seasons on his deal, but it slid in each of the first two years. Did he get paid that bonus in the first two years?

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yes signing bonuses are paid out even if a contract slides
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This could be a really nice deal for the Preds if he becomes a Torey Krug-type of guy.
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reminds me a little of we signed Robyn Regehr to that 5 year "bridge" contract.....
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Old 09-25-2014, 05:36 PM   #12
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Great contract for the preds, wow. Not sure way Ellis wouldn't ask for a shorter term though. Doesn't this but a couple UFA years?
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Old 09-25-2014, 05:37 PM   #13
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Awesome contract for the Preds, wow.
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Old 09-25-2014, 07:16 PM   #14
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Wow. Who is Ellis' agent? What a stupid contract. Is Ellis lacking confidence in himself and needs job security to perform?

A 23 year old offensive defenseman and former high first round pick who just cracked the NHL full time last season putting up 6 goals and 27 points should not be signing that contract.
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Wow looks like a real good deal for the Preds.
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Wow. Who is Ellis' agent? What a stupid contract. Is Ellis lacking confidence in himself and needs job security to perform?

A 23 year old offensive defenseman and former high first round pick who just cracked the NHL full time last season putting up 6 goals and 27 points should not be signing that contract.
Small, soft, and slow. Hard to imagine that he had too much leverage with the Preds

This seems like a pretty fair contract
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Small, soft, and slow. Hard to imagine that he had too much leverage with the Preds

This seems like a pretty fair contract
Haha. Yeah. I don't think so.
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Ryan is a ridiculously smart defenseman. I haven't seen too many that can read the game like he can. I loved watching him quarterback the powerplay. Not much got past him when he was on the blueline. He doesn't shine in Nashville like he would in other markets, because they have such a strong defense core. He is small, but his smarts make up for that. I think the contract is low. He will always be a favourite of mine.
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Small, soft, and slow. Hard to imagine that he had too much leverage with the Preds

This seems like a pretty fair contract
I would agree 100% with this. This contract seems fair for what your getting. Watched a lot of him in junior, he was a good player on a great team. "Greg Nemisz ring a bell" His small size has caught up to him in the big show. I have never seen a defenceman have to turn his back on the play as much as this guy does. Lacks skating speed. Good contract for a 4-7th defenceman, will never be a top pairing guy.
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