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Old 06-03-2014, 02:20 PM   #1
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Took the kids fishing this past weekend and had NO LUCK. EVERYONE around us were landing trout every 10-15 mins but we got shut out.

We were at Mclean Creek pond and there must have been 10 people fishing along the shore. We attempted 3-4 hours total and never had a bite. I'm sure it was the pepperoni and cheese bait we were using but were we doing something else wrong??

Most seemed to be using pickeral rigs with some sort of smell bait on the end. They were also using bobbers with worms and jigs.

Any advice for someone who has no idea when it comes to pond fishing in Alberta...
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:22 PM   #2
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A pepperoni and cheese bait? I've never heard of that before. We would use cheese or worms for bait and we had those spinner hooks that flashed and we always had good luck.

Have you considered using dynamite?
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:26 PM   #3
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a few beer were consumed over the weekend so pepperoni seemed like a logical choice at the time. We were told that using anything with smell works in a stocked pond as there is little to no food for the fish at Mclean creek.



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A pepperoni and cheese bait? I've never heard of that before. We would use cheese or worms for bait and we had those spinner hooks that flashed and we always had good luck.

Have you considered using dynamite?
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:27 PM   #4
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Were the trout rising? Dry flies would get lots of bites.

Small spinners should work too. Stocked trout are ravenous, and not vary wary. The pond will be fished out quickly.
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:27 PM   #5
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Pepperoni isn't goint go get you many fish, never seen that before. Cheese on the other hand has yielded some results in the past.

Spoons have gotten me more fish than any other bait I can think of. Cast and retrieve from shore should be doable.

Worms are a good idea, don't use them much myself but under the right conditions they are a good set it and forget it bait.

Hook size is also really important. Did you get any strikes at all or totally shutout?
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:34 PM   #6
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a few beer were consumed over the weekend so pepperoni seemed like a logical choice at the time. We were told that using anything with smell works in a stocked pond as there is little to no food for the fish at Mclean creek.
I just don't see fish being attracted to pepperoni, it probably wouldn't smell too appetizing to them? We used cheese and it was that crappy processed cheese and that worked like crazy.

We always used worms, live and wriggling because movement makes the fish curious. I've heard good things about dried flies but never tried that.

the weirdest thing we used was trout as bait when fishing for trout. We had some left over and used it the next day and caught one fish. The rest of the fish jumped out of the water and applauded us for catching the neighborhood serial killer.
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We wary using worms, that would qualify as live bait which is widely restricted in Alberta. Always read your regulations, I am unfamiliar with the current regulations for McLean Pond.
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I find chicken hearts work well, although I'm usually fishing for pickerel.
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:55 PM   #9
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http://www.albertafishingguide.com/l...ll/mclean-pond

http://www.ifishalberta.com/lakeFeedback.php?id=534

http://albertaregulations.ca/fishingregs/es1.html

Open all year – Trout limit 5; bait, except bait fish, allowed.

Bait — the definition of bait (see Definitions) includes, but is not restricted to: corn, cheese, marshmallows, meat, maggots, meal worms, earthworms, wax worms, gammarus shrimp, leeches, terrestrial insects, the larvae, pupae or adults of aquatic insects (e.g., stonefly, mayfly, caddis fly), bait fish, parts of fish, fish eggs, scented baits, power baits and all additives that scent or flavour artificial baits and lures.

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I find Velveeta works great for ice fishing, but I've never had much luck In the summer with it. Power bait>Velveeta in summer, Power bait<Velveeta in winter. No idea why.

In the past, we noticed that certain colors attract trout and whitefish for river fishing. Not sure why it works and why. Through trial and error, we determined one year it was bright red, then pink one year, then neon green the next (brought spools of cheap thread and just wrapped around the hook of a fly for about 1-2mm of color). 70-80% of all fish usually were caught using a specific color, so I don't think it was a coincidence all those years...

For man stocked lakes though... sigh, my secret... I've done huge hauls with cooked shrimp rings at Arbor Lake. They're like 3-4 bucks at superstore in the frozen seafood section. Cheaper is probably better as the shrimp is smaller. Haul wise, I'm talking pissing off people around us and having them call a warden/supervisor on us to check to see if we're doing something against regulation like barbed hooks etc. (They check us then leave because we're not) because we're literally pulling 11 of the 12 total fish caught from the dock in the hour or two we're there. I think the shrimp seems like a worm, but also has a scent the fish like. Use this tip wisely. I think we almost were banned for taking too many fish out and at one point, they specifically restricted the use of shrimp too.

I like using shrimp. It's sorta like a worm, but not as smelly. If trying to get girls to fish with you, they're more likely to put shrimp on a hook than worms. You can snack on the shrimp before fishing too, and since it's frozen, it helps temporarily as an icepack. Warm blood worms smell disgusting. Hope the tip helps, happy fishing.

Oh, the speed you reel in affects it too. Reel slowly. If you reel too fast, it spooks the fish to see turbo food and they won't even nibble. But if luck isn't on your side, alternating faster and slower is alright too.

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The above, reeling speed is huge, you want it to appear like something trolling for food. You go slow most of the time with quick jerks like its sprinting for something.

Too many people just cast it out and do this constant reel back because casting is the most fun part of fishing.
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I havent fished since I was a little kid however Aug long a bunch of friends and I are going to Whitefish and plan on doing a 1 day fishing trip to break up the golf. Has anyone fished out there? Is it $600 for us to all sit around and catch nothing or should it be entertaining?
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Old 06-03-2014, 08:41 PM   #14
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I havent fished since I was a little kid however Aug long a bunch of friends and I are going to Whitefish and plan on doing a 1 day fishing trip to break up the golf. Has anyone fished out there? Is it $600 for us to all sit around and catch nothing or should it be entertaining?
Flyfishing? The flyfishing in Montana in general is excellent. I haven't been everywhere in the world that there is to go, but I would describe it as the Mecca of flyfishing. Just beautiful, with big trout and lots of bugs for them to eat.

If you're spin fishing, I have no idea. I wouldn't pay $600 for that though. If you are taking a float trip with a guide though, chances are it will be great.
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I've heard good things about fishing in South Alberta. I remember catching pike and trout and stuff like that. I presume the same applies to Montana. $600 might be interesting and worth it to sit in a motor boat on a lake and have a guide coach you. I'm not sure if you're required to bring your own gear though.

Anything less than that, I would presume saving the $600 driving up to a gas station and asking a local or two about the best fishing in the area (casting from the edge of a lake or similar) would more than suffice.
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A pepperoni and cheese bait? I've never heard of that before. We would use cheese or worms for bait and we had those spinner hooks that flashed and we always had good luck.

Have you considered using dynamite?



Or Grenades?
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Flyfishing in Montana:

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People who would rather golf than flyfish are doing it wrong.
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So I have been spin casting since I was about 4 years old and for the first time in my life I tried fly fishing this weekend. I was obviously horrible at it, but man was it fun. We hiked into a back country trout lake and then on the way home went after some pike in the weeds. Still can't beat spin cast for wall eye, but as far as trout and pike go I will definitely have to look into setting up my own gear.
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