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Old 06-23-2014, 10:00 AM   #1
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Icon26 Flyers trade Hartnell to Columbus for Umberger and 2015 4th

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#CBJ have traded R.J. Umberger and a fourth-round pick in 2015 to #Flyers for Scott Hartnell.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:02 AM   #2
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:03 AM   #3
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Interesting trade. Not sure if that added 5th makes the return good enough for Philly. Hartnell is certainly the better player of the two. I thought Hartnell was older but he's actually younger than Umberger by about 2 weeks.
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Good trade for Jackets. Hartnell will add few things to that lineup.
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Wow. Didn't think Hartnells value had dropped that much. I know his contract sucks but he's twice the player Umberger is.

Not a good first trade for Hextall IMO.
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Good deal for Columbus I think.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:04 AM   #7
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I really like that trade for the Jackets, adds slot of grit to their front end.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:04 AM   #8
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Umberger 3 years left $4.6 million AAV
Hartnell 5 years left $4.7 million AAV
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Pretty even trade, IMO. I always liked Hartnell.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:05 AM   #10
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Columbus wins this trade I think
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I think Columbus wins.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:05 AM   #12
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Not sure what this adds to the Flyers. They don't dump cap space. Maybe incoming details about salary retention?
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:06 AM   #13
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Hartnell should add some good veteran leadership to a fairly young team as well. He'll be the second oldest guy on the team behind 33 year old Derek McKenzie.
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Trade makes little sense IMO.

Hartnell is a much better player than Umberger.

Only thing I can think of is that Philly is looking to buy somebody out and by making this move it saves them 2 years of buyout penalty...
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Wow. Didn't think Hartnells value had dropped that much. I know his contract sucks but he's twice the player Umberger is.

Not a good first trade for Hextall IMO.
They have pretty similar contracts... Hartnell's is longer though.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:08 AM   #16
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Nice trade for Columbus. They'll be a force in the playoffs next year.
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Both players are on the downward trend but Hartnell is the better player. The term on his deal is why the flyers did it IMO
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:09 AM   #19
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Hartnell's contract evens out the deal. That thing is going to stink in a few years.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:11 AM   #20
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This trade is essentially taking the weaker player to dodge the last 2 years of that deal. in 2 years, the Flyers have to re-up Voracek and Courturier, and then trading 1 year of Umberger (or buying him out) is much easier than Hartnell with 3 years, especially if he regresses further
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