Is Adam Bates just some random guy on facebook? Because notwithstanding that he seems to accept the "gay=evil" premise he seems much more well spoken than the candidate. How about he runs instead?
Incidentally I would like Scott Esk and everyone who thinks like him to die as soon as possible (by natural causes in the ordinary course of events, that is).
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By way of a recap, here are 76 other things Leviticus forbids. We hope Esk has been following all of it to the letter otherwise, you know, a stoning might be in order. Esk should especially worry about item #60.
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1. Burning any yeast or honey in offerings to God (2:11)
2. Failing to include salt in offerings to God (2:13)
3. Eating fat (3:17)
4. Eating blood (3:17)
5. Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you’ve witnessed (5:1)
6. Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you’ve been told about (5:1)
7. Touching an unclean animal (5:2)
8. Carelessly making an oath (5:4)
9. Deceiving a neighbour about something trusted to them (6:2)
10. Finding lost property and lying about it (6:3)
11. Bringing unauthorised fire before God (10:1)
12. Letting your hair become unkempt (10:6)
13. Tearing your clothes (10:6)
14. Drinking alcohol in holy places (10:9)
15. Eating an animal which doesn’t both chew cud and has a divided hoof (11:4-7)
16. Touching the carcass of any of the above (11:8)
17. Eating – or touching the carcass of – any seafood without fins or scales (11:10-12)
18. Eating – or touching the carcass of – eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, the red kite, any kind of black kite, any kind of raven, the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl, the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey, the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat. (11:13-19)
19. Eating – or touching the carcass of – flying insects with four legs, unless those legs are jointed (11:20-22)
20. Eating any animal which walks on all four and has paws (11:27)
21. Eating – or touching the carcass of – the weasel, the rat, any kind of great lizard, the gecko, the monitor lizard, the wall lizard, the skink and the chameleon (11:29)
22. Eating – or touching the carcass of – any creature which crawls on many legs, or its belly (11:41-42)
23. Going to church within 33 days after giving birth to a boy (12:4)
24. Going to church within 66 days after giving birth to a girl (12:5)
25. Having sex with your mother (18:7)
26. Having sex with your father’s wife (18:8)
27. Having sex with your sister (18:9)
28. Having sex with your granddaughter (18:10)
29. Having sex with your half-sister (18:11)
30. Having sex with your biological aunt (18:12-13)
31. Having sex with your uncle’s wife (18:14)
32. Having sex with your daughter-in-law (18:15)
33. Having sex with your sister-in-law (18:16)
34. Having sex with a woman and also having sex with her daughter or granddaughter (18:17)
35. Marrying your wife’s sister while your wife still lives (18:18)
36. Having sex with a woman during her period (18:19)
37. Having sex with your neighbour’s wife (18:20)
38. Giving your children to be sacrificed to Molek (18:21)
39. Having sex with a man “as one does with a woman” (18:22)
40. Having sex with an animal (18:23)
41. Making idols or “metal gods” (19:4)
42. Reaping to the very edges of a field (19:9)
43. Picking up grapes that have fallen in your vineyard (19:10)
44. Stealing (19:11)
45. Lying (19:11)
46. Swearing falsely on God’s name (19:12)
47. Defrauding your neighbour (19:13)
48. Holding back the wages of an employee overnight (19:13)
49. Cursing the deaf or abusing the blind (19:14)
50. Perverting justice, showing partiality to either the poor or the rich (19:15)
51. Spreading slander (19:16)
52. Doing anything to endanger a neighbour’s life (19:16)
53. Seeking revenge or bearing a grudge (19:18)
54. Mixing fabrics in clothing (19:19)
55. Cross-breeding animals (19:19)
56. Planting different seeds in the same field (19:19)
57. Sleeping with another man’s slave (19:20)
58. Eating fruit from a tree within four years of planting it (19:23)
59. Practising divination or seeking omens (tut, tut astrology) (19:26)
60. Trimming your beard (19:27)
61. Cutting your hair at the sides (19:27)
62. Getting tattoos (19:28)
63. Making your daughter prostitute herself (19:29)
64. Turning to mediums or spiritualists (19:31)
65. Not standing in the presence of the elderly (19:32)
66. Mistreating foreigners – “the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born” (19:33-34)
67. Using dishonest weights and scales (19:35-36)
68. Cursing your father or mother (punishable by death) (20:9)
69. Marrying a prostitute, divorcee or widow if you are a priest (21:7,13)
70. Entering a place where there’s a dead body as a priest (21:11)
71. Slaughtering a cow/sheep and its young on the same day (22:28)
72. Working on the Sabbath (23:3)
73. Blasphemy (punishable by stoning to death) (24:14)
74. Inflicting an injury; killing someone else’s animal; killing a person must be punished in kind (24:17-22)
75. Selling land permanently (25:23)
76. Selling an Israelite as a slave (25:42)
Is Adam Bates just some random guy on facebook? Because notwithstanding that he seems to accept the "gay=evil" premise he seems much more well spoken than the candidate. How about he runs instead?
Incidentally I would like Scott Esk and everyone who thinks like him to die as soon as possible (by natural causes in the ordinary course of events, that is).
I have no idea who Adam Bates is, but his arguement doesn't preclude him from being directly opposed to everything that Esk thinks about homosexuality.
He would have a much more difficult argument to say that it isn't sinful to be gay, as it directly contradicts the source of authority that Scott Esk is using, than he would to say that it isn't man's place to judge, which does not contradict that same source.
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Texas Gov. Rick Perry, during a visit that focused primarily on economic issues, drew on a reference to alcoholism to explain his view of homosexuality.
Perry's comments to the Commonwealth Club of California came after Texas' Republican Convention on Saturday sanctioned platform language allowing Texans to seek voluntary counseling to "cure" being gay.
The San Francisco Chronicle http://bit.ly/1oWq0qR reports that in response to a question about it, Perry said he did not know whether the therapy worked.
Perry, a former and potential future GOP presidential candidate, was then asked whether he believed homosexuality was a disorder.
The paper says that the governor responded that "whether or not you feel compelled to follow a particular lifestyle or not, you have the ability to decide not to do that."
He said: "I may have the genetic coding that I'm inclined to be an alcoholic, but I have the desire not to do that, and I look at the homosexual issue the same way."
Maybe a little OT, but it's good to see a Pope finally saying what most ordinary Catholics have wanted to hear for a long time now, at least on some issues. Obviously there is still a ways to go there though, but it is a step in the right direction.
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Not explicitly, he just accepts the premise that homosexuality is immoral for the purposes of argument. I.e., even if it is immoral, it's for God to judge / pass sentence. It's possible that he doesn't really believe that and is simply taking an effective alternative route to pointing out why Scott Esk is an ass, but that's not how it read to me.
Not that it matters, it's some guy on facebook. Not to mention that logic and argumentative method make absolutely no difference when responding to people like Esk.
When will people wake from their religious insanity?
They key word there is insanity.
Insane people are insane. They will always find something to believe in to justify their insanity. Sure for some people wrongly use the guise of religion to justify their insanity.
Surely, a reasonable person and a reasonable society knows that an insane person doing evil deeds in the name of religion makes the religion just as responsible as the sports team who has a fan do evil deeds in the name of the team.
When the Vancouver riots happened, we didn't say it was the Vancouver Canucks fault. We blamed the people who rioted, in the same way that when the Flames went to the finals in 2004 it wasn't Kiprusoff that ordered girls shirts off.
Crazy people do what crazy people do, and that's be crazy.
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Insane people are insane. They will always find something to believe in to justify their insanity. Sure for some people wrongly use the guise of religion to justify their insanity.
Surely, a reasonable person and a reasonable society knows that an insane person doing evil deeds in the name of religion makes the religion just as responsible as the sports team who has a fan do evil deeds in the name of the team.
When the Vancouver riots happened, we didn't say it was the Vancouver Canucks fault. We blamed the people who rioted, in the same way that when the Flames went to the finals in 2004 it wasn't Kiprusoff that ordered girls shirts off.
Crazy people do what crazy people do, and that's be crazy.
No, that was the hockey gods giving us some love. But I think Kipper ascended to their ranks post-retirement.
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The thing is, my posts, thoughts and insights may be my opinions but they're also quite factual.
I thought it was pretty funny when he suggested the Pope probably knows a bit of scripture.
Anyway, this New Testament passage seems pretty applicable here:
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." John 8:7