Compliance Buyout clock starts in 48 hours from....now - Any Flames action?

[browna]

One thing I wished I asked at the STH was the compliance buyout question.

This is the last year, from the CBA 2 years ago, that teams can enact this in 2 days from now. Flames still have their 2 buyouts.

Any Flames on the bubble for that buyout? Wideman?

Or do the Flames get creative and trade for a guy from another team that they plan to buyout? The reward for the owners basically eating that player's salary, is the other players or picks that would come along with that for "free".

With the increased cap, that's less likely than last year, and it didn't happen in the league last year.

Discuss.

[sureLoss]

No reason for them to use a compliance buyout on any of their current players. Need to get to the cap floor anyways.

As for trading for a guy to compliance buyout, it really depends on what ownership has the appetite for and what the return is going to be.

E.g. Are they going to spend millions of dollars to pay a player not to play on the team to get a late 2nd round pick in a weak draft? Unlikely.

[Resolute 14]

Why in the hell would they even consider a compliance buyout on Wideman?

[dammage79]

Not sure. Thing is, theres lots of time after it begins for teams to sort everything out. I don't think the Flame really have any players they desperately need to buy out. Maybe D.Jones.

I can see M.Richards or Havlat being acquired. But I also do not believe that teams will give up anything significant to unload said players.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by browna

One thing I wished I asked at the STH was the compliance buyout question.

This is the last year, from the CBA 2 years ago, that teams can enact this in 2 days from now. Flames still have their 2 buyouts.

Any Flames on the bubble for that buyout? Wideman?

Or do the Flames get creative and trade for a guy from another team that they plan to buyout? The reward for the owners basically eating that player's salary, is the other players or picks that would come along with that for "free".

With the increased cap, that's less likely than last year, and it didn't happen in the league last year.

Discuss.

I'm curious as to your reasoning for suggesting Wideman. Why would they buy him out? I don't see them using either of theirs on any of the current roster.

[Roof-Daddy]

The only guy I could see being bought out is O'Brien. Apparently was sent down because he wasn't buying in. I don't think management will want him on either of the teams.

They probably wouldn't even use a compliance buy out if the do buy him out.

[dino7c]

billion dollars in cap space, whats the point

[kirant]

The Flames will be somewhat hard pressed to meet the cap minimum. Most players that you could consider for this would make this a more difficult problem.

Maybe Shane O'Brien. He's likely not coming back as a Flame anytime soon and I could imagine the roster spot on the Heat might be better used.

[AC]

Exactly, we have a tonne of cap space and are going to be close to the salary floor. There's no chance we buy any player out.

[browna]

Not as much for freeing cap space, more to undo some of the things the previous GM did and/or with players that are unmovable. Instead of letting them flounder and take up a roster spot here or in Adirondack, move them off the roster without taking the cap hit. D. Jones would be another, as mentioned, as well as SOB.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by AC

Exactly, we have a tonne of cap space and are going to be close to the salary floor. There's no chance we buy any player out.

It's unlikely, yes but at the same time hardly unthinkable that it does happen. Wideman's numbers are absolutely abysmal and that goes hand in hand with his play for the most part. It wouldn't be so bad if Feaster hadn't put the cherry on the sundae with another NMC either.

The big question is do Treliving/Burke see an unmoveable 5.25M cap hit as a positive for three more years? You have to look beyond next season as this is probably the last chance they'll get to easily cut ties. Wideman is hardly going to be part of the solution as the team starts to trend upwards in a year or so.

[kyuss275]

No chance flames use a compliance buyout. I could see them using regular buy out in the summer on sob .

[pylon]

Originally Posted by kirant

the flames will be somewhat hard pressed to meet the cap minimum. Most players that you could consider for this would make this a more difficult problem.

Maybe shane o'brien. He's likely not coming back as a flame anytime soon and i could imagine the roster spot on the flames might be better used.

ftfy

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

It's unlikely, yes but at the same time hardly unthinkable that it does happen. Wideman's numbers are absolutely abysmal and that goes hand in hand with his play for the most part. It wouldn't be so bad if Feaster hadn't put the cherry on the sundae with another NMC either.

The big question is do Treliving/Burke see an unmoveable 5.25M cap hit as a positive for three more years? You have to look beyond next season as this is probably the last chance they'll get to easily cut ties. Wideman is hardly going to be part of the solution as the team starts to trend upwards in a year or so.

They can still trade Wideman if they eat some salary. Granted I doubt it's this summer considering flames are not exactly flush when it comes to d-men.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by AC

Exactly, we have a tonne of cap space and are going to be close to the salary floor. There's no chance we buy any player out.

I wouldn't say no chance. Shane O'Brien will probably be bought out.

[AC]

Originally Posted by codynw

I wouldn't say no chance. Shane O'Brien will probably be bought out.

That's a good point, especially after Burke's comments about SOB being sent down because he didn't buy into the culture of hard work.

I had erased him from my memory completely. Thanks a lot codynw!

[Caged Great]

SOB is the only one and he'd be a regular buy out.

Wideman and Jones contracts suck, but there isn't any need to do that.

[T@T]

Maybe they can buy a 1st round pick by trading #34 for a big contract bum and a 1st.

[kirant]

Originally Posted by pylon

ftfy

I actually meant the Heat. His spot with the Flames seems gone completely and if there's a player who might be pushed out of a roster spot in the AHL for the Heat it might be worth buying out O'Brien just to get him that valuable playing time.

Though you might have meant Flames contract space and in that case your comment is correct.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by kirant

Though you might have meant Flames contract space and in that case your comment is correct.

I think he meant that next year, Calgary's AHL team will be the Adirondack Flames.