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Old 01-06-2014, 09:38 PM   #1
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In light of the ongoing advanced stats debate, I decided to perform an experiment: To see what kind of Canadian Olympic Team would be assembled if advanced stats were the only criteria considered.

I collected all the advanced stats available from behindthenet and extraskater, and not knowing which players were which, I picked a team based solely on a balanced evaluation of their advanced stats. No names, no teams, no ages, etc. Just stats.

I then unblinded the experiment, and assembled the players into a reasonable roster.

There was no one single number used, but as I said, a balanced approach looking at player usage, strength of opposition, Corsi numbers, penalties taken/drawn, etc.

The results surprised me in a number of ways. Do yourself a favor and make a stand before you open the tags. Decide if you think it'll be close or completely bogus. It'll make things more interesting.

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Yay another Team Canada thread!
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Yay another Team Canada thread!
And another advanced stats argument!
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Yay another Team Canada thread!

This is a forum dedicated to hockey, and arguably the biggest hockey event which only comes every 4 years is a month away.

Let the Team Canada threads flow.


My only disappointment with the OP was the NSFW tags, I was hoping for some super juicy all-star stats which I couldn't open up at work.
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With Kane, Perron and Turris on the team it needs NSFW.
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Very interesting, especially for some bubble players like Kunitz, Sharp, Thornton and Marleau. Normally you would justify their place on the team based on team-mate familiarity with a stud player, but it's neat to see that their stats back it up. I suppose there is the Moulson/Tavares argument, but I'm surprised Tavares stats don't add up.

Is this based only on the 13-14 season to date?
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How many canadian players are active in the NHL ? People will bash stats but they seem to have narrowed it down a lot more than I would have expected.
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Very interesting, especially for some bubble players like Kunitz, Sharp, Thornton and Marleau. Normally you would justify their place on the team based on team-mate familiarity with a stud player, but it's neat to see that their stats back it up. I suppose there is the Moulson/Tavares argument, but I'm surprised Tavares stats don't add up.

Is this based only on the 13-14 season to date?
Based only on 2013-14 data.

Also, advanced stats are based on how a team performs when that player is on the ice. Since guys like Kunitz are never on the ice unless Crosby is on the ice, and Sharp is probably rarely on the ice without one of Toews or Kane, it's not so surprising to see excellent numbers.

And Thornton is only a bubble player because he's a playmaking centre, a position where he's stuck behind Toews and Crosby. A winger of Thornton's ability would be rock-solid lock.
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