Top Pairing GIO-BRODIE

[calgary2220]

This pairing has become a legit top NHL pairing! Gio since given the “C” has played his A$$ off every game. Besides missing a bunch of games due to injury as been lights out and has definitely taken the roll as Captain to heart. I would say if he hadn’t missed those games, there is a good chance his name would be on the ballet for the Norris.

As for Brodie has quietly worked his way out of a huge minus hole to a plus player now. He doesn’t get nearly the PP time that
Russell and Gio get but is our second highest scoring D man.

Should some of the love for Gio and his success, be shared with Brodie? They make a great top Pairing!

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by calgary2220

This pairing has become a legit top NHL pairing! Gio since given the “C” has played his A$$ off every game. Besides missing a bunch of games due to injury as been lights out and has definitely taken the roll as Captain to heart. I would say if he hadn’t missed those games, there is a good chance his name would be on the ballet for the Norris.

As for Brodie has quietly worked his way out of a huge minus hole to a plus player now. He doesn’t get nearly the PP time that
Russell and Gio get but is our second highest scoring D man.

Should some of the love for Gio and his success, be shared with Brodie? They make a great top Pairing!

He has always played this way IMO.

[formulate]

Originally Posted by calgary2220

Should some of the love for Gio and his success, be shared with Brodie?

This has been asked quite frequently by a number of outside fans.
Is Brodie being carried by Gio's outstanding play? Is Brodie the key in Gio's turnaround year?

Some simple numbers to answer:

Brodie w/o Gio: Goals-for %: 40.4%. Possession (corsi) %: 47.4%
Gio w/o Brodie: Goals-for %: 44.4%. Possession %: 47.7%

Together: GF%: 56.9% Possession %: 57.6%

Match made in heaven.

[btimbit]

These guys are so good together. We all know Gio is Gio, but Brodie is having a great year and deserves more credit.

[nik-]

I'm glad Gio is back and better than ever. I was worried for a while there after he got hurt going down to block that shot a few years ago. He wasn't the same for a good stretch after that. I'm glad it was only temporary.

He's the man.

[Gaskal]

I remember Brodie pinching in deep last night and still be back in time to cover. Top pairing D-man at 23 years old.

[Coach]

They had interviews with both of them on Flames.com the other day asking this question. Gio had nothing but great things to say about Brodie, how well he moves the puck and how dependable he is as a partner and how underrated he is and vice versa for Brodie. I think theyre both very good defensemen and the Gio is quietly becoming one of the best around.

[darthma]

Originally Posted by formulate

This has been asked quite frequently by a number of outside fans.
Is Brodie being carried by Gio's outstanding play? Is Brodie the key in Gio's turnaround year?

Some simple numbers to answer:

Brodie w/o Gio: Goals-for %: 40.4%. Possession (corsi) %: 47.4%
Gio w/o Brodie: Goals-for %: 44.4%. Possession %: 47.7%

Together: GF%: 56.9% Possession %: 57.6%

Match made in heaven.

the words 'corsi' and 'simple' do not belong together.

[Imported_Aussie]

Brodie is a top pairing guy on a weak team. We love how these guys are playing, but face facts, this team is below where they need to be to be a contender. When they get to that stage, if Brodie keeps improving, who knows, but I would still say the Flames only have half of a top pairing, albeit with good depth of NHL calibre defencemen in the 3-7 spots

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by Imported_Aussie

Brodie is a top pairing guy on a weak team. We love how these guys are playing, but face facts, this team is below where they need to be to be a contender. When they get to that stage, if Brodie keeps improving, who knows, but I would still say the Flames only have half of a top pairing, albeit with good depth of NHL calibre defencemen in the 3-7 spots

Except that entire argument is blown out of the water by the fact that Brodie is a + player on a very weak team playing against other teams top lines all season long. What's more important is that he has not looked at all out of place, he has looked like a true top pairing player when matched up against true contenders top pairing defenders.

As the rest of the team improves with time, so will his +/-.

[formulate]

Originally Posted by darthma

the words 'corsi' and 'simple' do not belong together.

Originally Posted by Imported_Aussie

Brodie is a top pairing guy on a weak team. We love how these guys are playing, but face facts, this team is below where they need to be to be a contender. When they get to that stage, if Brodie keeps improving, who knows, but I would still say the Flames only have half of a top pairing, albeit with good depth of NHL calibre defencemen in the 3-7 spots

Disagree with both of these statements.

A 'corsi event' is just when someone tries to shoot a puck at the net. Nothing complicated or difficult to understand about that.

And Giordano-Brodie have been outperforming top pairings on some good teams. On a lot of good teams, actually. There is evidence to suggest Brodie is not just a passenger. Whether this will continue to happen remains to be seen, but right now these guys are playing like legitimate #1 and #2 defensemen.

I agree that the team isn't where it needs to be. But for that I would look more towards defensemen 3-7, most of the forwards, and goaltending (up until recently). Our top pairing is the biggest reason we are 26th instead of 29th, in my opinion.

[ForeverFlameFan]

The fact that Brodie is only 23 and playing like this only makes me wonder how he'll play in the defensive "prime years" ... And Wotherspoon could be a top 4 defensman too in a couple of years, and he is only 21.

Gio is Gio. I love him as our captain, and he is playing amazing hockey.

Our defensive core is very exciting, we just need to find those top 6 forwards!

[_Q_]

Brodie reminds me of a young Scott Niedermayer... and I'm not even joking.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Imported_Aussie

Brodie is a top pairing guy on a weak team. We love how these guys are playing, but face facts, this team is below where they need to be to be a contender. When they get to that stage, if Brodie keeps improving, who knows, but I would still say the Flames only have half of a top pairing, albeit with good depth of NHL calibre defencemen in the 3-7 spots

Such a silly argument. Is Tavares a top line C on a weak team, or is he a top line C?

You don't judge a player by how good the team is overall, you judge him by what he does, and how the team is, when he is on the ice.

And all of the stats available show that Gio and Brodie are being dominant against the toughest competition in the NHL.

Can the person that recently posted their stats (zone starts, level of competition, etc) in another thread please post them here?

These guys are getting it done and are/should be in the conversation with other top pairing s in the league for what they have done in the last couple months or so. (keeping in mind that it has only been for that long and consistency is a factor that has not yet been achieved)

[nik-]

Yeah, Gio is a legit top pairing guy in this league. Which teams don't immediately slot him with this best guy if they were to acquire him?

St. Louis, Chicago, Boston when Seidenberg isn't hurt ... not many.

[gilligans_off]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Brodie reminds me of a young Scott Niedermayer... and I'm not even joking.

I said this while at the San Jose game with my brother.

[Ryan Coke]

Scott Neidermayer, another guy I compare him to is Dan Boyle.

And the biggest issue with Brodie is where he will be in 4-5 years. He is only going to get better, and he is already very good.

[Vinny01]

Brodie has really taken steps every year since he turned pro.

Why have some pundits changed their opinion on the length of the Flames rebuild?
Brodie/Backlund/Bouma/Colborne all have taken big steps
Monahan looks like a cornerstone player
Granlund/Wotherspoon/Reinhart/Knight/Ferland/Ortio all with very solid pro seasons
That's not even mentioning Gaudreau, Arnold, Gillies, Poirier, Klimchuck, Kulak, Culkin

Gio/Stajan/Grats/Glencross/Cammy/Hudler all seem like great veterans to have around a rebuilding team

Lastly Ramo has lived up to the hype Feaster gave when he traded for him. It took time but he is a legit NHL goalie who has looked great for the last couple months when he has played.

I have loved this season so much as a fan because there are finally pieces that have long term value. There are also assets to go after big name players if/when they are available via trade. I really hope the flames continue to battle but outside the games against the Leafs and Nucks I hope they lose by 1 goal and get into that top 3. Ekblad, Reinhart, or Bennett would be fantastic.

[Sylvanfan]

The development of Brodie and his play in the second half is the thing that has me most optimistic about this team moving forward. He's taken the steps he showed at the end of last year and continued to progress further this year. It's been a long time since the Flames had a defence pairing that worked as well as Giordano and Brodie are. I think you have to go back to Regehr and Leopold the first time round to find two guys who played this well together.

[neo45]

Brodie is an absolute stud defensively due to his skating. Perfect pairing for an aggressive player like Giordano