Is Calgary more attractive to UFA's with Feaster gone? - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Timbo · 12-13-2013, 02:38 PM

With Burke grabbing the reins and still a yet unnamed GM are the Flames more/less likely to attract desirable UFA's. Or does the yet unnamed GM weigh in these type of decisions?

Are we
More focused in direction. Willing to pay the money.

Ashasx · 12-13-2013, 02:39 PM

Toronto really had zero success in attracting free agents when Burke was in charge.

Feaster at least picked up Hudler (who has decent trade value) and Wideman during his tenure.

KOgear · 12-13-2013, 02:40 PM

pick up all the Calgarians!

madmike · 12-13-2013, 02:46 PM

I'd say no. I don't think there's any real difference.

codynw · 12-13-2013, 02:48 PM

No. Either way Calgary is a dumpster city and the team is not a contender. Nobody wants to be a part of that.

Ashasx · 12-13-2013, 02:50 PM

Well, Calgary is not a dumpster city...

codynw · 12-13-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

Well, Calgary is not a dumpster city...

Shouldn't you be crying in the Baertschi thread?

Poe969 · 12-13-2013, 02:53 PM

Please don't feed the troll. Let's keep this about hockey

Ashasx · 12-13-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by codynw

Shouldn't you be crying in the Baertschi thread?

Why does one beget the other? What does this have to do with anything?

If this is going to be your response to anything I type, just because I have an opinion on something else, do us a favour and put me on ignore.

Vinny01 · 12-13-2013, 03:00 PM

The Flames become more desirable once they turn the corner and that doesn't happen until some prospects step up and they look like a team on the rise. I don't doubt Jay was a great salesman when pitching ufa's the guy was a great talker

Calgary4LIfe · 12-13-2013, 03:07 PM

Winning teams attract free agents. Unless there is a particular coach or GM in place with whom a player has a feud, he will go to a city based on chances to win, money and then how desirable that particular city is itself.

Darryl Sutter traded away Ference after they had a 'handshake' agreement in place for him not to be traded - still signed FAs afterwards without a problem. Feaster forced Regehr to waive his NTC after leaking the trade publicly, putting Regehr into a situation where it was difficult to say no. Still signed FAs after.

Most guys want to win, get paid and live in a place they enjoy. Everything else is secondary. Unless they have had a particular problem with someone from a team, that is what they follow.

Timbo · 12-13-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

Toronto really had zero success in attracting free agents when Burke was in charge.

Feaster at least picked up Hudler (who has decent trade value) and Wideman during his tenure.

I wonder about that. Calgary obviously is not Toronto however Calgary and the West benefit from IMO good fans and great hockey towns (Canucks Not included

) and a media that is not totally insane (Eric Francis not included

)

Is Burke vilified by players?

Ashasx · 12-13-2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbo

I wonder about that. Calgary obviously is not Toronto however Calgary and the West benefit from IMO good fans and great hockey towns (Canucks Not included

) and a media that is not totally insane (Eric Francis not included

)

Is Burke vilified by players?

I think it's more of a coincidence. Toronto was a bad team. I don't think Burke played any role is scaring players away.

FlamesAddiction · 12-13-2013, 03:16 PM

I don't think it matters that much. If anything, Feaster could talk the talk as much as any GM.

Free agents care about money (Calgary has this) and winning (Calgary does not currently have this).

I do think the city matters somewhat. Calgary has a lot to offer, but it totally depends on the individual (if I am being fair and wasn't already a Flames fan, it wouldn't be tops on my list, but I wouldn't avoid it either). Calgary is probably neutral in this respect.

IamNotKenKing · 12-13-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by codynw

No. Either way Calgary is a dumpster city and the team is not a contender. Nobody wants to be a part of that.

Says the guy from Lethbridge? Seriously?

getbak · 12-13-2013, 03:16 PM

The only players it might make a difference to are those who had a previous relationship with Burke and/or the new GM.

I would think that for most players, their main concerns are going to be:

How much will the contract pay?
How long is the contract?
What will my role on the team be?
How is the team expected to perform over the term of the contract they're offering?

Each player will prioritize those differently. If there are still multiple teams in consideration beyond that, then they'll look at things like the city, the arena, the fan base, the ownership, the management, etc.

Erick Estrada · 12-13-2013, 03:19 PM

The same. I don't believe the GM makes much of a difference. Calgary is a small market Canadian team which is always going to be a deterrent to some top UFA's. The current state of the team isn't going to change overnight and that's also a deterrent for some UFA's. Flames are still going to have to overpay free agents regardless of the GM and the only thing that can make them a little more attractive is icing a contender.

afc wimbledon · 12-13-2013, 03:23 PM

Does it matter? free agents havn't been a key to success in years

CaptainCrunch · 12-13-2013, 03:26 PM

We clearly need a nicer DVD

As long as we don't have to do an Edmonton and heavily overpay pluggers and past their primers to play for us.

Timbo · 12-13-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Does it matter? free agents havn't been a key to success in years

Will it always be that way? Not being argumentative just wondering if it is possible that the trends are cyclic. I am not claiming to own the recipe for success. Wish I had it though.

Are we destined then to build by the draft only?