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FBI · 11-14-2013, 10:59 AM

Here's some guys that could be our core in a few years (along with Baertschi and Monahan) and how they are doing this year..

Damn these stats lines are exciting:

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Gillies (8 GP, 6-1-1, .944, 1.73)

Wing: Poirier
21 GP, 16G, 18A, 34pts, +13, PPG: 1.62, 1st on team scoring

Wing: Gaudreau
9 GP, 9G, 9A, 18pts, +10, PPG: 2.0, 1st on team scoring

Center: Jankowski
9 GP, 6G, 1A, 7pts, +4, PPG: 0.78, T2nd on team scoring

LW: Klimchuk
22 GP, 12G, 15A, 27pts, +7, PPG: 1.23, 1st on team scoring

I think we've got our future top 6, as well as our future goalie, and I've never been more excited about the future of the Calgary Flames.

The Yen Man · 11-14-2013, 11:08 AM

What Calgary is missing is a high end defensive prospect. I'm really hoping we are able to get Ekblad this year.

squirtle · 11-14-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Yen Man

What Calgary is missing is a high end defensive prospect. I'm really hoping we are able to get Ekblad this year.

We'd probably have to win the lottery at the rate that Edmonton is going but they've done that too and look where they still are lol.

jg13 · 11-14-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by squirtle

We'd probably have to win the lottery at the rate that Edmonton is going but they've done that too and look where they still are lol.

Even if Edmonton wins the lottery they'd probably take reinhart they never learn

If Calgary can end up with Ekblad this team could very well be elite in 3-4 years.

OutOfTheCube · 11-14-2013, 11:21 AM

Scoring and succeeding in junior is a VERY different thing from doing it in the NHL. Some of the most prolific scorers in junior history have never done anything significant in the NHL.

Not to take the wind out of your sails, but it's a little early to be proclaiming this our future top six and be getting hyped up.

Caged Great · 11-14-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Scoring and succeeding in junior is a VERY different thing from doing it in the NHL. Some of the most prolific scorers in junior history have never done anything significant in the NHL.

Not to take the wind out of your sails, but it's a little early to be proclaiming this our future top six and be getting hyped up.

True, but it's very rare for someone with crappy junior stats to translate into a scorer at the nhl level.

At least at the first checkpoint in their development, it's a positive. Whether or not they adapt at the next level is up to them.

CliffFletcher · 11-14-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Scoring and succeeding in junior is a VERY different thing from doing it in the NHL. Some of the most prolific scorers in junior history have never done anything significant in the NHL.

Not to take the wind out of your sails, but it's a little early to be proclaiming this our future top six and be getting hyped up.

Yep. We need a couple more drafts like last year's, then we'll have a nice top six of prospects.

FakenHaken · 11-14-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jg13

Even if Edmonton wins the lottery they'd probably take reinhart they never learn

If Calgary can end up with Ekblad this team could very well be elite in 3-4 years.

A whole lot of if(s) need to happen before we could very well be elite. IE Gaudraeu turns out to be like St. Louis or Kane in the NHL, and doesn't get clipped. Gillies turns out to be Sean Burke/Martin Brodeur and not Trevor Kidd. Jovanovski turns out to be Monahan. I know you used could but in our case although encouraging seasons lots of time and if(s) still to get to elite.

OutOfTheCube · 11-14-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FakenHaken

A whole lot of if(s) need to happen before we could very well be elite. IE Gaudraeu turns out to be like St. Louis or Kane in the NHL, and doesn't get clipped. Gillies turns out to be Sean Burke/Martin Brodeur and not Trevor Kidd. Jovanovski turns out to be Monahan. I know you used could but in our case although encouraging seasons lots of time and if(s) still to get to elite.

Puppet Guy · 11-14-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FakenHaken

A whole lot of if(s) need to happen before we could very well be elite. IE Gaudraeu turns out to be like St. Louis or Kane in the NHL, and doesn't get clipped. Gillies turns out to be Sean Burke/Martin Brodeur and not Trevor Kidd. Jovanovski turns out to be Monahan. I know you used could but in our case although encouraging seasons lots of time and if(s) still to get to elite.

Jovanovski?

I think you need another coffee, Haken.

H2SO4(aq) · 11-14-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FakenHaken

A whole lot of if(s) need to happen before we could very well be elite. IE Gaudraeu turns out to be like St. Louis or Kane in the NHL, and doesn't get clipped. Gillies turns out to be Sean Burke/Martin Brodeur and not Trevor Kidd. Jovanovski turns out to be Monahan. I know you used could but in our case although encouraging seasons lots of time and if(s) still to get to elite.

boy that would be a shock!

OutOfTheCube · 11-14-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Caged Great

True, but it's very rare for someone with crappy junior stats to translate into a scorer at the nhl level.

At least at the first checkpoint in their development, it's a positive. Whether or not they adapt at the next level is up to them.

Yes, a valid point. But, as a younger hockey fan I remember getting so pumped up about guys dominating junior only to disappoint in the next stage of their careers. I exercise caution now.

FakenHaken · 11-14-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Puppet Guy

Jovanovski?

I think you need another coffee, Haken.

My bad Jankowski
Goodness sakes I need to table flip this desk and step away.

FBI · 11-14-2013, 11:34 AM

Well this is the first time for this excitement for me.. When is the last time the Flames had a bunch of junior guys leading their teams in scoring in a huge way?
I can't even think of one let alone three..

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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Yes, a valid point. But, as a younger hockey fan I remember getting so pumped up about guys dominating junior only to disappoint in the next stage of their careers. I exercise caution now.

The Yen Man · 11-14-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Yes, a valid point. But, as a younger hockey fan I remember getting so pumped up about guys dominating junior only to disappoint in the next stage of their careers. I exercise caution now.

I don't disagree with your point about excerising caution, but the Flames organization has been so starved of high end prospects the past several years, the optimist in my can't help but be excited to hear about the new crop of prospects excelling in junior.

FakenHaken · 11-14-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Yes, a valid point. But, as a younger hockey fan I remember getting so pumped up about guys dominating junior only to disappoint in the next stage of their careers. I exercise caution now.

Marty Murray always comes to my mind. I agree with what your saying stay patient. While the news looks good it's not over till it's over.

return to the red · 11-14-2013, 11:38 AM

I get what you are saying OP, it's been a long time since the Flames had anything in the stable to look forward too!

Many people were drooling when the Flames just drafted Baertschi let alone the young guys that the Flames have coming through the pipeline

flames_fan_down_under · 11-14-2013, 11:38 AM

Absolutely, OutOfTheCube I think a lot of us would agree with you. However as Flames fans we have been subjected to an extremely lacklustre prospect pool over a very very long time.

Following 26 point NCAA campaigns from 10th overall Eric Nystrom was disheartening, or Nemisz boring us all to another lacklustre season with Windsor, the Pelech's, Chucko's, the list goes on.

Can't blame us for being excited!

CliffFletcher · 11-14-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FBI

Well this is the first time for this excitement for me.. When is the last time the Flames had a bunch of junior guys leading their teams in scoring in a huge way?
I can't even think of one let alone three..

Matthew Lombardi. Dustin Boyd. Probably Kobasew. I'm sure there are others.

Thing is, the Flames drafted a lot of defencemen and goalies with the 1st and 2nd rounds picks for a while there. Then there was Sutter's fixation on 'character' guys. Skilled forwards drafted in the first couple rounds are often the top scorers on their junior teams.

OutOfTheCube · 11-14-2013, 11:45 AM

From my perspective, Gaudreau reminds me way too much of Gerbe. Very undersized, high skill forward, mid-round pick, dominated in college... only to not be able to translate his game to the NHL. All us Sabres fans were fawning over the prospect of having the next St. Louis on our hands but the reality with those little guys is they more often struggle then excel. Time will tell with him but the expectations for him need to be tempered.

Baertschi was the top scorer on the Winterhawks 2 years ago and has struggled to translate his game to the NHL so far. Nemisz and Wahl were point per game players in junior. Chuck Kobasew scored 40 goals for the Rockets way back. Etc.

It's certainly not BAD to be a top scorer in junior, but it's always better to keep expectations in check.