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Old 11-14-2013, 01:33 PM   #1
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Default Almost 50 years since JFK assassination

As you can easily tell from all of the tv documentaries airing over the last couple weeks, the 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination is coming up next Friday. One new documentary titled "The Smoking Gun" seems to be getting a lot of attention, postulating that a secret service agent accidentally shot JFK with his AR15.

I have always found it disappointing that JFK's legacy is rooted in conspiracy theories and not in his successes or failures as a President. Regardless of your thoughts on the subject though, the documentary "JFK- three shots that changed America" is one of the best- it is essentially just a collection of footage from Nov. 22, 1963. It doesn't give any opinions or present any theories. Just raw footage showing the hours leading up to and following the assassination. Certainly one of the most historical days of the last 100 years.

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The book that that documentary is based on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_...hat_Killed_JFK

The guy that wrote the book Bonar Menninger based it off of research that Howard Donahue did. Donahue was a sharpshooter, gunsmith and ballistics expert. It's actually a really good documentary and seems like the most plausible explanation for what happened that day.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:41 PM   #3
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I DVR'd a Nova special last night, on PBS, called 'Cold Case JFK' - description says "a reinvestigation using modern technology and contemporary scientific techniques. Included: ballistics experts reconstruct the shooting in a test of the 'single bullet theory.'" Will probably watch it tonight with my husband. It looks very interesting.
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I DVR'd a Nova special last night, on PBS, called 'Cold Case JFK' - description says "a reinvestigation using modern technology and contemporary scientific techniques. Included: ballistics experts reconstruct the shooting in a test of the 'single bullet theory.'" Will probably watch it tonight with my husband. It looks very interesting.
Did they say if there was a shooter on the grassy knoll?
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Haven't watched it yet.
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Haven't watched it yet.
Just re read your post where you said DVR

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I've had Don Delillo's book Libra sitting on my shelf for years just have never gotten around to choosing it to read next. Anyone on here read it before?
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Old 11-14-2013, 05:03 PM   #8
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Aldous Huxley also died on November 22, 1963. When he was on his deathbed, he asked his wife for several doses of LSD.

Both men went out that day with their minds blown.
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I have always blamed Kramer and Newman
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One new documentary titled "The Smoking Gun" seems to be getting a lot of attention, postulating that a secret service agent accidentally shot JFK with his AR15.
Hadn't heard this theory and just had to go do some reading into it because my first thought was... to accidentally discharge a gun is one thing, but then to shoot twice more and blow his brains out. Yeah.
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Hadn't heard this theory and just had to go do some reading into it because my first thought was... to accidentally discharge a gun is one thing, but then to shoot twice more and blow his brains out. Yeah.
This theory assumes that only the final headshot was fired by the secret service agent. Not all 3..
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This theory assumes that only the final headshot was fired by the secret service agent. Not all 3..
Yes, that's why I went to do some reading...

I'll be tired of all the conspiracy theories by the end of next week, that's for sure. It'll be worse than the inevitable reboot of theories every year before 9/11.
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I don't think Oswald acted alone. In fact I don't think Oswald acted at all. Too many questions unanswered for me.

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It was Roger Mcdowell
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I don't think Oswald acted alone. In fact I don't think Oswald acted at all. Too many questions unanswered for me.
There is a clear trail of Oswald purchasing the rifle via mail-order. There were several witnesses that saw him carry a long package into the buulding the morning of the 22nd. He was seen on the 6th floor of the depository minutes before the assassination- and left alone on that floor as other employees went to watch the motorcade. He was the only employee to flee the building after the shooting. A witness saw him shoot and kill a police officer within 1 hr of the assassination and then resist arrest in a movie theater minutes later. His palm print was found on the rifle that killed JFK.

This is only a small sample of facts that clearly point to his involvement. What is it that makes you question otherwise?

Its a shame that Oswald was a coward and didn't just admit his guilt during his media scrums following the assassination.
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There is a clear trail of Oswald purchasing the rifle via mail-order. There were several witnesses that saw him carry a long package into the buulding the morning of the 22nd. He was seen on the 6th floor of the depository minutes before the assassination- and left alone on that floor as other employees went to watch the motorcade. He was the only employee to flee the building after the shooting. A witness saw him shoot and kill a police officer within 1 hr of the assassination and then resist arrest in a movie theater minutes later. His palm print was found on the rifle that killed JFK.

This is only a small sample of facts that clearly point to his involvement. What is it that makes you question otherwise?

Its a shame that Oswald was a coward and didn't just admit his guilt during

his media scrums following the assassination.
A witness confirmed that the package he was carrying was nothing more than curtain rods. Oswalds finger prints were not found on the rifle at first. Witnesses confirm that FBI agents came later (when he was already dead) and planted Oswalds palm and finger prints on the rifle. Another witness to the Tippett murder said the shooter looked nothing like Oswald. It all seems like bull#### to me. He was nothing more than a patsey.

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I never questioned that Oswald pulled the trigger. He probably was the lone shooter but maybe not. What has always left me unsatisfied is what was the motive and who if anyone was behind Oswald? The inquiry left everybody with too many questions and than they sealed the files. Why did they do this? What if anything are they hiding? I've been waiting since I heard the news.
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Did they say if there was a shooter on the grassy knoll?
They did tests of the area and concluded that it was impossible for a shooter to have hit JFK from there; as well the acoustics from the surrounding buildings is what caused witnesses to have thought they heard gunshots from the grassy knoll.
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This theory assumes that only the final headshot was fired by the secret service agent. Not all 3..
It's a very pausable theory as the headshot wound couldn't have been shot from above or from the grassy knoll. Watch the video,the way the right side of his head explodes could only mean the final shot came from behind and slightly to the left. it's simple physics!

Why this fact was covered up should be the big question.
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Just listened to Dan Carlin openly postulate that a coverup by the american government may have been in an effort to avert global conflict. Draws comparisons to the assassination of the arch duke ferdinand that lead to ww1. If the soviets had anything to do with the murder, or if backlash to a communist tied oswald or oswald and conspirators would have caused an appetite for open war, i could buy the idea of a "just coverup"

just theoretical i know, but kind of opened my eyes to the idea that there may have been things more valuable than the truth at stake.
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