[Signing] Brenden Morrow 1 year with STL

[The Original FFIV]

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 5m
Brenden Morrow has agreed to a one-year deal with the St. Louis. Obvious connection there with Hitchcock/Armstrong from Dallas days...

[Erick Estrada]

Good signing for the Blues as he's a good character player that can chip in with points.

[Canada 02]

$1.5m
Blues will be a cap team this year

[BigTuna]

He's done. Surprised he didn't habe to do a PTO deal.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

He's done. Surprised he didn't habe to do a PTO deal.

He is just as done as Stempniak ... 9 goals 32 pts last year

Morrow puts in 12 goals 29 pts...

Morrow 84 hits 20 Blocked shots Stempniak 47 hits 17 blocked shots.

And the sick thing is that Stempniak was exceeding expectations and last year was his best as a Flame.

Stempniak is making 2.5 M 1 more than Morrow.


The very sad thing about this signing is that it shows that Stempniak has no trade value.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

He is just as done as Stempniak ... 9 goals 32 pts last year

Morrow puts in 12 goals 29 pts...

Morrow 84 hits 20 Blocked shots Stempniak 47 hits 17 blocked shots.

And the sick thing is that Stempniak was exceeding expectations and last year was his best as a Flame.

Stempniak is making 2.5 M 1 more than Morrow.


The very sad thing about this signing is that it shows that Stempniak has no trade value.

The only major difference between the two would probably be speed and the ability to affect a play. Morrow is pretty slow, especially compared to Stempniak, so it may moderately increase Stempniak's value. Stempniak is also 4 years younger, which certainly helps.

Their value is definitely not the same.

[Husky]

Morrow is a solid veteran presence that can still play third line with occasional top 6.

Solid signing by Blues. They are looking like one of the top teams IMO.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

The very sad thing about this signing is that it shows that Stempniak has no trade value.

Morrow was traded just a few months ago for a 2nd round pick and a top defensive prospect.

The only reason Morrow sat out this long is probably because with his age, the chances are relatively lower that he will keep his production at the same level next season. Stempniak has age on his side still. I also wouldn't be surprised if Morrow was simply holding out for a better deal as well.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I also wouldn't be surprised if Morrow was simply holding out for a better deal as well.

There were at least two teams that offered Morrow a contract and it appears he did hold out as long as possible either in hopes one team sweetened their offer or more teams joined in. I imagine the Blues offer him a better chance at a cup than the other team/s that were interested.

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

He is just as done as Stempniak ... 9 goals 32 pts last year

Morrow puts in 12 goals 29 pts...

Morrow 84 hits 20 Blocked shots Stempniak 47 hits 17 blocked shots.

And the sick thing is that Stempniak was exceeding expectations and last year was his best as a Flame.

Stempniak is making 2.5 M 1 more than Morrow.


The very sad thing about this signing is that it shows that Stempniak has no trade value.

Morrow also played on the Pittsburgh Penguins

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Morrow was traded just a few months ago for a 2nd round pick and a top defensive prospect.

The only reason Morrow sat out this long is probably because with his age, the chances are relatively lower that he will keep his production at the same level next season. Stempniak has age on his side still. I also wouldn't be surprised if Morrow was simply holding out for a better deal as well.

Don't forget he had an injury in the past. He only played 86 games for Dallas last two seasons due to injury and played another 15 games for Pittsburgh. I think that is the reason why it took a long time for him to sign.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Morrow was traded just a few months ago for a 2nd round pick and a top defensive prospect.

The only reason Morrow sat out this long is probably because with his age, the chances are relatively lower that he will keep his production at the same level next season. Stempniak has age on his side still. I also wouldn't be surprised if Morrow was simply holding out for a better deal as well.

and this year St. L got him for no assets and a 1 year 1.5 M contract.

Who do you think a team would think might be the boost they need in the playoffs?

Stempniak as a solid regular season top-6 player with the Coyotes just totally disappeared in the playoffs..... 2 series 11 games 2 assists.

Morrow, even if he isn't scoring, is valuable in the playoffs. Morrow had 12:04 minutes /game in the playoffs and was -2 Iginla for comparison purposes had only 13:06 ES /game and was -4.

Morrow was a even player against the Bruins and Iginla was -4 in the 4 games against the Bruins.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Mitch

Morrow also played on the Pittsburgh Penguins

For like 10 games?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

and this year St. L got him for no assets and a 1 year 1.5 M contract.

Who do you think a team would think might be the boost they need in the playoffs?

Stempniak as a solid regular season top-6 player with the Coyotes just totally disappeared in the playoffs..... 2 series 11 games 2 assists.

Morrow, even if he isn't scoring, is valuable in the playoffs. Morrow had 12:04 minutes /game in the playoffs and was -2 Iginla for comparison purposes had only 13:06 ES /game and was -4.

Morrow was a even player against the Bruins and Iginla was -4 in the 4 games against the Bruins.

I still don't see how an older free agent holding out for a longer contract has anything to do with Stempniak's trade value.

You're comparing apples to orangutans.

If anything, another free agent off the market increases the value of players that provide similar contributions. Morrow isn't an option any more for any other teams, not to mention that teams looking at Morrow are looking at different types of contributions than what Stempniak offers.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I still don't see how an older free agent holding out for a longer contract has anything to do with Stempniak's trade value.

You're comparing apples to orangutans.

Depends if you are talking now or at the deadline. I don't think Stempniak has much trade value right now considering there are still players that will sign for cheap and not cost assets to get. At the deadline Stempniak will have trade value if he plays well this year.

That's why i find it kind of funny when posters say give youngsters a spot and trade veteran player. Most of our veteran players are worth very little at this stage of the game.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I still don't see how an older free agent holding out for a longer contract has anything to do with Stempniak's trade value.

You're comparing apples to orangutans.

If anything, another free agent off the market increases the value of players that provide similar contributions. Morrow isn't an option any more for any other teams, not to mention that teams looking at Morrow are looking at different types of contributions than what Stempniak offers.

St.L is a very likely playoff team..... that won't have room for Stempniak at the trade deadline. They have already added Morrow basically so they have enough guns in the playoffs if they run into the Kings in the 1st round again. I am pretty sure they didn't get Morrow because they feel that he will move them from the playoff bubble area to a high playoff seed.



Cammalleri, for instance, might have his trade value sky-rocket at the trade deadline as he has shown he can be a difference maker in a playoff series.

If a team thinks that Stempniak is their missing piece that gets them into the playoffs or into round 2 are 2010-11 Flames desperate and disillusioned. Not many team historically that have been that desperate and disillusioned.

[LouCypher]

Some of these vets that could be moved out by the deadline here will have temporary trade value, Stempniak is a good example. If he is hot or at least putting up some numbers his value will temporally be higher around deadline time. Beginning of the year and into the first 20-30 games our vets have less value, as time gets short and other teams want to add a piece for this year value goes up, once the deadline passes value bottoms out again. So even though some guys have really low value now that value is tied directly in to what someone else is willing to pay at the right time. Stemp could be worth nothing for most of the year in a trade, then in the week leading up to the deadline he fetches more then he would at any other time. Provided his performance is there and he is healthy, same applies to most vets that while most the time are not considered core players their value will skyrocket briefly if the right team eyes them.

[Goodlad]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

St.L is a very likely playoff team..... that won't have room for Stempniak at the trade deadline. They have already added Morrow basically so they have enough guns in the playoffs if they run into the Kings in the 1st round again. I am pretty sure they didn't get Morrow because they feel that he will move them from the playoff bubble area to a high playoff seed.



Cammalleri, for instance, might have his trade value sky-rocket at the trade deadline as he has shown he can be a difference maker in a playoff series.

If a team thinks that Stempniak is their missing piece that gets them into the playoffs or into round 2 are 2010-11 Flames desperate and disillusioned. Not many team historically that have been that desperate and disillusioned.

Your hatred of Stempniak continues to be mystifying, yet impressive in it's consistency.

[The Yen Man]

Was hoping Flames signed him to a $2-2.5M one year deal, and then flipped him for a couple picks at the trade deadline. Oh well.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Husky

They are looking like one of the top teams IMO.

THN predicted them to win the cup.