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Old 10-17-2016, 09:57 AM   #1
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Roger Waters announced a tour for 2017. Will be a mix of solo work and Pink Floyd stuff.

October 24, 2017 in Edmonton
October 28, 2017 in Vancouver

http://www.roger-waters.com/



Anyone with an Amex card want to get me a couple tickets? Haha.
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:18 PM   #2
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I would enjoy this, the wife, not so much......
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Old 10-17-2016, 11:05 PM   #3
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If it is anything like his last two tours it is not to be missed!
Truly an amazing musician and show.

If the below is true should be excellent!

The set list for what he's dubbed the Us + Them tour will focus heavily on material he recorded with Pink Floyd alongside new songs and past solo works. The singer is promising a show with brilliant visuals and quad sound. "We are going to take a new show on the road, the content is very secret," Waters said in a statement. "It'll be a mixture of stuff from my long career, stuff from my years with Pink Floyd, some new things. Probably 75 percent of it will be old material and 25 percent will be new, but it will be all connected by a general theme. It'll be spectacular like all my shows have been."
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Got my tickets! Goin' to Edmonton.....in a year from now!
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what section?
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what section?
202 - row 6. Looks like center ice-ish in the second bowl for $100 each.

I originally had two in the back of the 100's for $165 each, but let those go.
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Selling tickets a year in advance.... ridiculous.
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Why? Lots of bands put tickets on sale well in advance. World tours require a lot of planning.
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I went to his 2007 concert in Calgary. He was too old and rusty to perform then. Spent too much time talking about politics during the concert. He is 73 years old now; not sure there will be an improvement. There's got to be an age when one should just stop performing rock music for his/her own good name's sake. Bob Dylan's recent show in Calgary was a disaster, not a single word came out audible. And I am a HUGE fan of both Pink Floyd and Bob Dylan...
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I saw him in 2007 and then again twice on his wall tour. I had floor seats and some second level today but took a pass. The cost plus it being mid-week in edmonton just made it logistically difficult.

If he dies a day after that concert I won't regret not going and that's what ultimately made my decision.
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Yeah, I saw The Wall tour a couple years ago at BC Place and while it was good, I don't think I can justify the $260 + ferry, hotel, etc., to go see him again.

Would rather see David Gilmour to be honest.
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The 2014 release of The Wall concert is on Netflix Canada for those who are interested
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I would also rather see Gilmour, he's still got it. Waters is (and probably has always been) too political and his voice isn't pleasant to listen to and has gotten worse with age. Gilmour is more of the voice and guitar and spirit of Pink Floyd that I hear in my head.

The apex of these tours was probably when Gilmour appeared as a surprise guest at the top of the wall a few years ago.
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I saw the Who earlier this year and they absolutely killed it, even though both gentlemen were in their 70's. I'd love to go see Roger Waters. I saw the Australian Pink Floyd cover DTSoM with the SSO and lasers and things a few years ago, if Us+Them is anywhere near as incredible as that was, I swear....

No matter how terrible the quality of the show may be to those who actually saw the Floyd in their heyday, I'd still remember that night for the rest of my life
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Roger Waters has not been able to sing for 20 years he lip syncs most everything now. Gilmour's voice is finally starting to fade as well.
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...Gilmour is more of the voice and guitar and spirit of Pink Floyd that I hear in my head...
Waters was the poetry, Gilmour was the music and Wright was the sound of Pink Floyd. Mason was, well, Mason... On their own, only Gilmour was able to produce anything of value, because he was a real musician and one of the very best guitar players in the world. But even with all that, he was not able to write anything of value after the Momentary Lapse of Reason and Division Bell. His blues albums "About Face" etc. are quite boring. Waters was never able to sing or write music well to begin with, so nothing changed for him after the breakup.
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Love the enthusiasm in this thread! Can't wait to see him next year, thanks guys!
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Waters was the poetry, Gilmour was the music and Wright was the sound of Pink Floyd. Mason was, well, Mason... On their own, only Gilmour was able to produce anything of value, because he was a real musician and one of the very best guitar players in the world. But even with all that, he was not able to write anything of value after the Momentary Lapse of Reason and Division Bell. His blues albums "About Face" etc. are quite boring. Waters was never able to sing or write music well to begin with, so nothing changed for him after the breakup.
While I respect your opinion I happen to think



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Of course, they are. He is a world-class musician with all of the bells and whistles at his disposal! Anything this guy does is solid and it should be. I mean, search youtube videos where he teaches how to play simple PF songs - even there he is great, with an acoustic guitar only. It's just not the same caliber music in comparison to what it was, when they were together, that's all.
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I went to his 2007 concert in Calgary. He was too old and rusty to perform then. Spent too much time talking about politics during the concert. He is 73 years old now; not sure there will be an improvement. There's got to be an age when one should just stop performing rock music for his/her own good name's sake. Bob Dylan's recent show in Calgary was a disaster, not a single word came out audible. And I am a HUGE fan of both Pink Floyd and Bob Dylan...
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Roger Waters has not been able to sing for 20 years he lip syncs most everything now. Gilmour's voice is finally starting to fade as well.
So which is it?

Waters was never the best singer and when I saw him in 07 he had a lot of help. The idea from the beginning was for him to only do some of the Gilmour singing parts. He always had a lot of backing vocals.

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Waters was the poetry, Gilmour was the music and Wright was the sound of Pink Floyd. Mason was, well, Mason... On their own, only Gilmour was able to produce anything of value, because he was a real musician and one of the very best guitar players in the world. But even with all that, he was not able to write anything of value after the Momentary Lapse of Reason and Division Bell. His blues albums "About Face" etc. are quite boring. Waters was never able to sing or write music well to begin with, so nothing changed for him after the breakup.
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Of course, they are. He is a world-class musician with all of the bells and whistles at his disposal! Anything this guy does is solid and it should be. I mean, search youtube videos where he teaches how to play simple PF songs - even there he is great, with an acoustic guitar only. It's just not the same caliber music in comparison to what it was, when they were together, that's all.
What's funny about Waters/Gilmour is that they were perfect for each other musically. They were not like Lennon/McCartney where they were accomplished musicians and lyricists/songwriters in their own right and were downright amazing together.

Waters has always been about folksy music, strong theatrical ideas and lyrics but his Wall demo ideas were all pretty poor. This is evident on some of the weaker Wall tracks and The Final Cut. They are both amazing albums, but Waters' weaknesses are apparent.

Gilmour on the other hand is an amazing musician but can't write lyrics to save his life. Momentary Lapse of Reason and Division Bell are both albums by committee as he had to bring in every session musician on the planet and even then he only produced a couple of tracks that even come close to the levels of PF's glory years.

Much as I love Gilmour most of his music is painfully boring and both Division Bell and Lapse of Reason relived so heavily on his guitar abilities and numerous thematic retreads from previous albums (like the excessive use of sound effects, wind blowing, water rushing, random other sounds etc).

When PF were at their best, Waters presented almost all the thematic ideas and lyrics with mediocre at best music, and Gilmour helped polish it into generational rock music.

Neither of them have come remotely close to capturing the magic that they were able to create together.
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