Router recommendation?

[Azure]

Lots of the new routers do 'guest' networks, but from what I understand they don't actually isolate the guest network onto a different IP range?

Say my normal network is 192.168.1.xxx, is there a router out there that isolates the guest network onto a 192.168.2.xxx network?

I went through the manual for the latest Asus routers, and they just seem to do access point isolation, but if you're smart enough you can actually get access to the local network since you're still on the same IP range.

Looking at a GOOD router, like this one.

http://my.asus.com/Networks/Wireless_Routers/RTN66U/

For the office, where we can grant access to our guests and employees that just need wifi for the internet, without access to our local network. I know I can easily do it with two routers, but we have multiple places where we need a router, so I would prefer to not have to buy twice as many if I can get away with it.

Thanks.

[sclitheroe]

Lol here's a nickel kid, buy yourself a real router. That's not a good router.

THIS is a good router:
http://www.meraki.com/products/wireless/mr12

Absolutely awesome products, been playing with them for a few weeks now, and they are superb.

[Vulcan]

I just got this router. It seems to be working well, well better than the Shaw one I sent back. I haven't had good luck with refurbished products in the past but this has good reviews. It has a guest network but not sure if it's to your specs. I don't need it and so disabled it. They also have the original new router for $170.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=73594&...s&promoid=1479

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by sclitheroe

Lol here's a nickel kid, buy yourself a real router. That's not a good router.

THIS is a good router:
http://www.meraki.com/products/wireless/mr12

Absolutely awesome products, been playing with them for a few weeks now, and they are superb.

Holy crap, someone else here knows about Meraki too! I'm testing out a bunch of their hardware right now for an upcoming deployment.

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Holy crap, someone else here knows about Meraki too! I'm testing out a bunch of their hardware right now for an upcoming deployment.

I only suggested it because Azure mentioned it was for work use - and it's definitely affordable in a small office scenario (it's borderline affordable for home - I know a number of network & hardware geeks at work that are eyeballing them).

It's a bit unreal how easy they are to configure - I had a 3 node mesh VPN setup deployed in under 45 minutes, including WAN acceleration on two of the nodes. Lots of other benefits we're just starting to look at, like the self-healing, configuration management, PCI compliance checking, secure client check-in, etc.

The other neat thing is that their devices are lifetime warranty - a device breaks, they cross-ship you another one.

Very impressed so far with what I've seen of their gear. Their engineers are unbelievably approachable and communicative too.

[Nage Waza]

This is available for under $200:

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/%5B..._router_review

Asus RT-N66U, I am going to pick one up.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by sclitheroe

I only suggested it because Azure mentioned it was for work use - and it's definitely affordable in a small office scenario (it's borderline affordable for home - I know a number of network & hardware geeks at work that are eyeballing them).

It's a bit unreal how easy they are to configure - I had a 3 node mesh VPN setup deployed in under 45 minutes, including WAN acceleration on two of the nodes. Lots of other benefits we're just starting to look at, like the self-healing, configuration management, PCI compliance checking, secure client check-in, etc.

The other neat thing is that their devices are lifetime warranty - a device breaks, they cross-ship you another one.

Very impressed so far with what I've seen of their gear. Their engineers are unbelievably approachable and communicative too.

I'm a little bit annoyed that they just got bought out by Cisco, but apparently they've been told they'll be left alone to continue doing their own thing and they'll be Cisco's "cloud division."

Not sure I'm overly happy about that. Like you say, Meraki is incredibly approachable and they have that cool start-up vibe to them that I like.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by sclitheroe

Lol here's a nickel kid, buy yourself a real router. That's not a good router.

THIS is a good router:
http://www.meraki.com/products/wireless/mr12

Absolutely awesome products, been playing with them for a few weeks now, and they are superb.

Their 'low-end' router is $300 if I read it correctly. Because I need multiple APs, I'm looking at quite a lot of money. I know they are good units, as a friend of mine exclusively uses them for all his clients.

We already have stuff that handles DHCP, filtering, firewall, etc, etc. I simply need a 'good' router, as in one I won't have to reset 3x a day like the Linksys we have now, that can do guest accounts on a different IP range.

One in an office environment, and one in a 'shop' environment. If they work properly, we'll probably put up a couple more. There are about 15-20 phones, tablets, and laptops that connect to our 'network' that we want to isolate onto a separate IP range since they just need internet connectivity.

EDIT: I should add that I'm getting conflicting reports as to how some of these routers do 'guest networks.' A few 'manuals' on the internet that I've found suggest that there are routers where you can isolate the guest network by IP range, but the Asus one only seems to do it by AP isolation. You can still tracert the other computers on the network, which is a problem for us as management wants it on a separate IP range completely.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

This is available for under $200:

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/%5B..._router_review

Asus RT-N66U, I am going to pick one up.

I do believe Memory Express had that one for $180 the other day when I checked.

I specifically like the capability of 3G support, as we were also looking at something for 'backup' internet in case our main connection goes down.

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by Azure

EDIT: I should add that I'm getting conflicting reports as to how some of these routers do 'guest networks.' A few 'manuals' on the internet that I've found suggest that there are routers where you can isolate the guest network by IP range, but the Asus one only seems to do it by AP isolation. You can still tracert the other computers on the network, which is a problem for us as management wants it on a separate IP range completely.

This problem is going to exist on any router that can't do VLAN'ing, unfortunately, and you're not going to find anything for less than $300-400 that will, I don't think.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Azure

Their 'low-end' router is $300 if I read it correctly. Because I need multiple APs, I'm looking at quite a lot of money. I know they are good units, as a friend of mine exclusively uses them for all his clients.

We already have stuff that handles DHCP, filtering, firewall, etc, etc. I simply need a 'good' router, as in one I won't have to reset 3x a day like the Linksys we have now, that can do guest accounts on a different IP range.

Either you use your existing equipment to handle the vlan with a separate wireless access point, or you cough up $400 for a Meraki (or similar).

Can't see any other options that both fit your requirements and is less expensive. Give management the option, they can make the call which is more important.

ETA:
- I guess there is the option of getting rid of one of the wireless networks, then your problem disappears (and adds a few others).

- You could contact Shaw to see about hosting a ShawOpen access point. Not exactly the same for your guest users, but depends on how much problem that could cause having guests on an (essentially) open network.

[J Diddy]

We have a really solid wifi network setup with Aruba networks products at my work. Highly recommend them.

http://www.arubanetworks.com/

[para transit fellow]

Anything new on the market since we last kicked around the topic?

I need to research a router for work:
two - three computers

I'd like to add two VOIP lines - I understand there are routers that work better with VOIP?

(do know enough about office networking to know what terms I should be using - any info links appreciated)