[Signing] Cleary bails out of Flyers deal, back to Detroit.

[dissentowner]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=431528
$2.75/yr for 3 yrs and a ntc. Weird for a team in cap hell.

[StrykerSteve]

Very odd.

[Coach]

Wtf? Bad deal. Never been a cleary fan.

[devo22]

Paul Holmgren does know that there is a salary cap, right?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by devo22

Paul Holmgren does know that there is a salary cap, right?

No, nor does he understand that his teams D is a steaming pile of poo.

[devo22]

took a quick look at it and it actually works fine once Pronger is gone to LTIR. That top 9 looks scary.

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Danny Cleary ($2.750m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Adam Hall ($0.600m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Tye McGinn ($0.775m) / Scott Laughton ($1.107m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Erik Gustafsson ($1.000m) /

GOALTENDERS
Ray Emery ($1.650m)
Steve Mason ($1.500m)

OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,624,594; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,475,406

[Poe969]

Flyers actually look good on paper but I think they need some cap room. They are a team like the leafs we should target in a trade for an over priced player like Mezaross or Coburn

[19Yzerman19]

Not really that scary... Cleary isn't even worth 2.

[BACKCHECK!!!]

Dan Cleary is a quality hockey player.

Isn't it about time for Kimmo Timonen to, ya know, buy an assisted-living condo in Arizona, drive an old Buick Grand Regal around town with one turn signal going the whole time, and trying to buy prune juice with expired newspaper coupons from a different city?

[Oil Stain]

Clearly is a good hockey player, but players his age tend to drop off precipitately at pretty much any time. Especially the guys that rely on hard work over natural talent. 3 years is too risky IMO but risk seems to be the Flyer's MO.

[GreenLantern]

Hrmm, guess that means Gagne won't be getting a contract from them.

[19Yzerman19]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Hrmm, guess that means Gagne won't be getting a contract from them.

This is what I was thinking and it doesn't make much sense. So, either Cleary's going to play 2LW or 3LW, with BSchenn playing where he doesn't. Well, Gagne would probably be about as effective in either spot, and come in about a million bucks cheaper on a one year deal, if not more.

If anyone watched Cleary last year it's pretty obvious he's dropped off a cliff, his knees are shot. Trust me when I say that, as much as Cleary's contributions to the cup and finals runs are something everyone will have fond memories of, every Red Wings fan is currently laughing his balls off at that contract.

And a NTC to boot... just brutal.

[East Coast Flame]

3 years and a ntc? What the hell? Who else was bidding for Cleary? That's ridiculous

[dobbles]

thank god he finally signed somewhere as wings fans were still afraid that he would be retained at the expense of younger players. mike babcock had a strange man crush on cleary and gave him way too many minutes. most wings fans are celebrating this move.

[TurdFerguson]

That's a early July contract, not an early September contract. Nice add, but don't like the contract.

[red sky]

Per year!

I thought $2.75 over three years.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by dobbles

thank god he finally signed somewhere as wings fans were still afraid that he would be retained at the expense of younger players. mike babcock had a strange man crush on cleary and gave him way too many minutes. most wings fans are celebrating this move.

yeah, but wouldn't you prefer Cleary over Samuelsson? Just saying

I like Cleary, but that contract is a typical Holmgren-WTF-move.

[Pontine]

I don't understand the moves Philly makes

[Beatle17]

As I Flyers fan even I can't justify this deal. I have lost hope in Holmgren, he is actually getting worse IMO than Sutter was in his crazy years at the end in Calgary.

Brutal deals with NTC for everyone. As I have stated before the Flames should be calling to see what it would take to get Brayden Schenn from the Flyers. It may be less than we think.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by devo22

took a quick look at it and it actually works fine once Pronger is gone to LTIR. That top 9 looks scary.

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Danny Cleary ($2.750m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Adam Hall ($0.600m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Tye McGinn ($0.775m) / Scott Laughton ($1.107m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Erik Gustafsson ($1.000m) /

GOALTENDERS
Ray Emery ($1.650m)
Steve Mason ($1.500m)

OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,624,594; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,475,406

The Flyers have either the best scouting in the NHL or they are the luckiest. Having Claude Giroux and Jakub Voracek emerge as top league talent is the only thing keeping this team relevant.