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Old 06-13-2013, 11:43 AM   #1
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The economic depression in this seemingly rich nation is dismal.

An interesting milestone yesterday, all public broadcasting abruptly ended. Just flipped the switch to 'OFF', with only a day or so notice to the millions of citizens. A really big deal. Think if the CBC suddenly went off the air.

Eurozone crisis live: Thousands protest against Greek broadcaster's closure

Yanis Varoufakis: Occupying the Closure of Greek Public TV (Journalists at BBC, ABC, and CBC, Take Note). Updated
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Think if the CBC suddenly went off the air.
That would be my dream come true
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Well, if they weren't giving disability money/benefits to kleptomaniacs, pyromaniacs and pedophiles - maybe they wouldn't need to start controlling their spending and runaway debt.
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I think something like a third of their population is employed by a incredibly bloated government.

They have next to no developed industry at all.

If there's a country that has to seriously cut its social programs and the size of their government its Greece.

They also have to start chasing down the fact that more then half of their citizen's are tax evaders.

If there's a country that needs to file a chapter 11, its Greece, I'm surprised that they haven't been kicked out of the eurozone yet, they're basically the eurozones lazy cousin that moves in and sleeps on the couch all day between x-box marathons and grumbles that you have enough money when you beg him to get a jerb.
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Greek's are going through a metaphorical full-body surgery right now. Everything hurts right now, but all necessary evils.

I would say public broadcasting is one of the first things to get axed outside of emergency messaging.

Captain Crunch: I heard 60-80 % of Greeks commit tax evasion of varying degrees.
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I miss the good 'ol Greece days of Zeus and Hercules.
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Greek's are going through a metaphorical full-body surgery right now. Everything hurts right now, but all necessary evils.

I would say public broadcasting is one of the first things to get axed outside of emergency messaging.

Captain Crunch: I heard 60-80 % of Greeks commit tax evasion of varying degrees.
Yeah, I know it was a ludicrous number in terms of evaders, which is funny considering that a lot of them probably work for the government

I was trying to look it up, but from 2011 to last year it was illegal to fire a civil servant.it was actually written into their constitution. so basically you could show up for work, masturbate on a cat 5 hours a day while leering at a co-workers boobies and you couldn't be fired.

A cop was recently sentenced to 30 years in prison for killing a kid and he's still getting paid while he sits in prison.

Suppossedly the plan is to tie a can to the tail of 15,000 civil servants by the end of next year. And to force 1,400 civil servants who have broken the law or been imprisoned to quit.

The Greece civil service numbers about 750,000 people. to put this into perspective they have a population of 11 million people with a something like a third or so under a working age.

Now to put that into perspective, Canada has a population of 34 million and a federal government payroll of about 268,000.

And we're incredibly bloated and inefficient.
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found the article

http://www.dw.de/civil-servant-for-l...ece/a-16786608
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The economic depression in this seemingly rich nation is dismal.

An interesting milestone yesterday, all public broadcasting abruptly ended. Just flipped the switch to 'OFF', with only a day or so notice to the millions of citizens. A really big deal. Think if the CBC suddenly went off the air.

Eurozone crisis live: Thousands protest against Greek broadcaster's closure

Yanis Varoufakis: Occupying the Closure of Greek Public TV (Journalists at BBC, ABC, and CBC, Take Note). Updated
Am I the only one who never considered Greece to be rich? Unless we're going back to antiquity they have been a fairly mid table economic power for a while.
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The greek population is the most entitled, self-indulgent, absolutely clueless constituency on the planet. Their country is in absolute shambles yet they are mostly unwilling to accept any sort of changes to their lifestyles, whether it be austerity measures or amendments to their constitution.

"The country is bankrupt? I don't care, I still want to retire at 55"
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The greek population is the most entitled, self-indulgent, absolutely clueless constituency on the planet. Their country is in absolute shambles yet they are mostly unwilling to accept any sort of changes to their lifestyles, whether it be austerity measures or amendments to their constitution.

"The country is bankrupt? I don't care, I still want to retire at 55"
I was waiting for a mention of whether or not you'd been there recently
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No mention of The Golden Dawn?

These neo-nazi #######s are probably the scariest thing about the Greek implosion right now.

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Golden Dawn spokesman Ilias Kasidiaris wrote an article that was published in Golden Dawn magazine on April 20, 2011, in which he mentioned: What would the future of Europe and the whole modern world be like if World War II (which the democracies, or in fact the Jews - according to general Ioannis Metaxas - declared on Germany) hadn't stopped the renewing route of National Socialism? Certainly, fundamental values which mainly derive from ancient Greek culture, would be dominant in every state and would define the fate of peoples. Romanticism as a spiritual movement and classicism would prevail against the decadent subculture that corroded the white man. Extreme materialism would have been discarded, giving its place to spiritual exaltation. In the same article, Adolf Hitler is characterized as great social reformer and military genius.
The group in cahoots with the Grecian Police force, and is basically the only form of law in many small cities.

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In May 2012, Golden Dawn ran in Greek elections under the slogan "So we can rid this land of filth".[126] On his post-election statement, leader Nikolaos Michaloliakos had placed a marble eagle, on an obvious position on his desk, which according to media reports bears similarity to the eagle of the Nazi Third Reich.[127] Post elections, Golden Dawn's MP Eleni Zaroulia wore an iron cross ring during her inauguration, a symbol which has been associated with Nazism.[128] As depicted in a picture taken on September 14, 2012, Golden Dawn's MP Panagiotis Iliopoulos has a tattoo reading the Nazi greeting Sieg Heil.
Something definitely needs to be done about the Golden Dawn.
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Yay less choice!
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I read an article about youth unemployment in the EU countries that have bankrupt economies. It basically said there is going to be a generation of lost youth.

Youth unemployment runs about 67% in Greece and Spain....very very sad.
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I was waiting for a mention of whether or not you'd been there recently
No but I was recently in Europe and...
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I read an article about youth unemployment in the EU countries that have bankrupt economies. It basically said there is going to be a generation of lost youth.

Youth unemployment runs about 67% in Greece and Spain....very very sad.
What I don't understand is why there isn't a mass exodus of Greeks to places like Germany and Scandinavia as citizens, where the economies are markedly better.
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No mention of The Golden Dawn?

These neo-nazi #######s are probably the scariest thing about the Greek implosion right now.



The group in cahoots with the Grecian Police force, and is basically the only form of law in many small cities.



Something definitely needs to be done about the Golden Dawn.


Yeah, they are scary people with scary ideas for sure.

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/tag/Golden+Dawn
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Yay less choice!
Government funded crap. I don't know much about CBC's financials but how competitive would they really be if it weren't for taxpayer funds?

I have nothing against public broadcasting but CBC is awful. If it was even 1/10th of the BBC I'd have no complaints.
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What I don't understand is why there isn't a mass exodus of Greeks to places like Germany and Scandinavia as citizens, where the economies are markedly better.
*cough*entitlement*cough*cough*
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