03-28-2013, 08:03 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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The 1st Day of the Rest of our Lives.
Oh look, the sun came up.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm relieved that what happened yesterday is now done. No matter what you think of the trade or how hard it will be to not see Iggy in red, a huge weight has been lifted off our collective shoulders and we can finally start moving on…kicking and screaming or otherwise. It's probably going to suck for a few years, but atleast the decision that needed to happen 3 years ago was finally made.
For me, the best part of this deal is not the 1st round pick. It's not the two college guys. It's the fact that we can finally take that step psychologically. Whether you like it or not, the next generation of Flames was not going to emerge with the current team, and not without such a huge shadow looming over them.
I for am looking forward to the next leader stepping up. Whether that's Sven, Gaudreau, Backlund, Seth, or some guy we draft 2 years from now….someone will eventually do it. I for one can't wait to see what happens next.
Onward and upward, Flames fans!
After perhaps more downward….
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03-28-2013, 08:14 AM
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#2
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Up and at them!
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03-28-2013, 08:16 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Calgary
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We better see some other major moves now.
Flames management has let this fester for YEARS now - and the return on Iginla was crap when it should have been good building blocks.
Time to restock the cupboards Flames - you better get some GOOD value for some players to get some hope for the future because as it is, this team is looking to be WORSE than the Oilers of 2007.
It could very well be a decade+ of no playoffs for this city thanks to the cowardly and crap management of the team since 2007.
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03-28-2013, 08:20 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Table 5
Oh look, the sun came up.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm relieved that what happened yesterday is now done. No matter what you think of the trade or how hard it will be to not see Iggy in red, a huge weight has been lifted off our collective shoulders and we can finally start moving on…kicking and screaming or otherwise. It's probably going to suck for a few years, but atleast the decision that needed to happen 3 years ago was finally made.
For me, the best part of this deal is not the 1st round pick. It's not the two college guys. It's the fact that we can finally take that step psychologically. Whether you like it or not, the next generation of Flames was not going to emerge with the current team, and not without such a huge shadow looming over them.
I for am looking forward to the next leader stepping up. Whether that's Sven, Gaudreau, Backlund, Seth, or some guy we draft 2 years from now….someone will eventually do it. I for one can't wait to see what happens next.
Onward and upward, Flames fans!
After perhaps more downward….
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I agree in a lukewarm way. I've thought they should have made this move for years and because of the stupidity of ownership and management didn't do so. So yes I'm happy that they finally got around to moving on with the future. But the actual trade is a disaster. The Boston deal at least had a guy who could be a legit 2nd liner. This is two more palooka's for the Heat and a pick.
Yep it has changed the direction a bit. We will see how the rest of the trades go. But your downward comment is very likely with Feaster running the show.
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03-28-2013, 08:21 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Calgary
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Seriously this is the happiest day for me. I've stopped posting in F&I because of how emotional people got over the team rather than thinking rationally.
For 3 years I've asked for Iggy to be traded because of how garbage this team was and that we needed to rebuild. For 3 years I'd get infracted or trolled because this team was apparently good enough to win the cup.
The main problem is that this trade happened 2-3 years too late. The pieces we got back are not enough to re-tool. This will be an absolutely painful rebuild, one much much worse than normal. But I'm really really glad that we're finally on that path.
Maybe with Iggy gone we can finally have rational logical discussions on this forum again.
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03-28-2013, 08:24 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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I understand but find myself generally depressed this morning..
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03-28-2013, 08:29 AM
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It was time to move on. The return clearly isn't good enough, but, like was said above, the Flames can actually move on out of Iginla's shadow.
No more "we need a centre to play with Iginla".
No more shuffling the lines consistently to spark Iginla when he's struggling.
No more bringing in retreads to appease Iginla and try and squeak into 8th.
The team can finally move forward and make moves with the long-term in mind. I have no doubt that Feaster, Weisbrod & Co. aren't the long term solution, but hopefully they can get enough back at this trade deadline that they set the table for our next GM.
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03-28-2013, 08:34 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chiefs Kingdom, Yankees Universe, C of Red.
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Pretty emotional day for myself, which I find confusing because I'm not an emotional person (surprised actually). I wonder if the crap return is the Flames giving Iginla what he wanted and not caring what the return was, because the franchise thinks that much of him.
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03-28-2013, 08:39 AM
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I believe in the Pony Power
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I said on CP Radio that until #12 moves on the Flames don't move on.
So now we get to move on.
It is going to be a painful, long process to get this team back to contending. But at least now it can start.
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03-28-2013, 09:00 AM
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Franchise Player
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Yup, time to start moving forward
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03-28-2013, 09:34 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Calgary
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The saddest part of this is not that Jarome is gone, it's the fact that the Flames had to be dragged kicking and screaming to this point which is what I have feared for years. If you think the Oilers something special rebuild has been painful, you ain't seen nothing yet.
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03-28-2013, 09:43 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford
If you think the Oilers something special rebuild has been painful, you ain't seen nothing yet.
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Really depends what happens in the next week for me. There are a couple more guys on the current roster that if dealt could get a decent return for a quicker rebuild.
We're not going to have 3-4 1st overall picks, but we might get a more balanced roster / prospect list than they have up north... time will tell.
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03-28-2013, 09:46 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Not sure
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FBI
I understand but find myself generally depressed this morning..
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Preach it brother. For the 2nd time, we've traded away our Captain and leading scorer. It sucks being that team AGAIN.
For the record, I'm VERY happy for Iginla. The man owes us nothing and is by far the most worthy to pursue the cup. I wish him the best of luck in that quest.
I do feel bad for the fans though....this marks a very quick return to the dark years that will make the fisrt dark years seem quite bright in comparison. It is going to be very difficult to watch this team for the forseeable future.
I was at the first game the Flames played after the Fleury trade, I just realized I have tickets to Fridays game so history repeats itself. I just hope the outcome is better this time.
Very sad day to be a Flames fan.
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03-28-2013, 09:54 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Flame Country
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Unlike Edmonton's rebuild we actually have assets that other teams want and are willing to trade good pieces for. Hopefully our rebuild turns out to be more like Ottawa's rebuild in 1 year and not tanking for 4 years to ensure our GM has no choice but to draft a top prospect.
Mackenzie was saying on Thats Hockey the other night that Bouw may actually fetch a bigger return than Iginla will. There are more teams in search of a top 2 dman right now and can big a bigger bidding war then between 3 teams. With a year left on his contract and him playing damn near his huge cap hit it likely adds more value. I could see us getting an A-prospect, B-prospect and 2nd round pick for Bouw. Perhaps a 1st round and one A-prospect depending on the team.
Word is that St Louis and Detroit feel they would greatly benefit from the addition of Bouw to their blue line and I'd have to agree. It's all a matter of Feaster not crapping the bed and making the right deal.
Lets hope Iggy was the first domino to fall and we see 3-4 more flames get shipped out for decent prospects/picks.
Last edited by Bandwagon In Flames; 03-28-2013 at 09:57 AM.
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03-28-2013, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JayP
No more "we need a centre to play with Iginla".
No more shuffling the lines consistently to spark Iginla when he's struggling.
No more bringing in retreads to appease Iginla and try and squeak into 8th.
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I said long ago, that the only problem (minimal) that Iginla brought to the team was the above. However, we must look at what is typed above and clearly ask ourselves,
"Why couldnt we get him a legit Centre?"
"Why werent these teams good enough to get into 8th"
It may in fact have been "logical" to move him 3 years ago, but with our draft history and ability to turn prospects into something...it likely wouldnt have mattered.
A lot of Feaster's moves have backfired, I dont think we got good value for Iginla unless he returns at years end.
I'd just like to remind everyone that "its not your fault" and "its not his fault" this team has been so bad for so long. Moving forward, onward upward sounds great until its Young Guns II.
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03-28-2013, 10:02 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Do you know what I find the most sad about this?
Not even Oiler and Canuck fans are here to troll us in great numbers! We are not even worth it anymore!
I would rather have that than their pity.
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03-28-2013, 10:05 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: A small painted room
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Don't like the return but understand it's a UFA rental.
In a way I'm relieved for the rest of the Flames players. They won't be holding their sticks as tight and may start to play better as a lot of 'sellers' tend to do.
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03-28-2013, 10:09 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calumniate
Don't like the return but understand it's a UFA rental.
In a way I'm relieved for the rest of the Flames players. They won't be holding their sticks as tight and may start to play better as a lot of 'sellers' tend to do.
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That is exactly what we don't want IMO.
This team needs a high draft pick this year - they have NO ONE anywhere that is a potential franchise player.
Ending up with a 9 or 10 pick is not going to help this team, we need top3 draft pick.
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03-28-2013, 10:12 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Do you know what I find the most sad about this?
Not even Oiler and Canuck fans are here to troll us in great numbers! We are not even worth it anymore!
I would rather have that than their pity.
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what is there to troll?
team finally made a move in a direction that those around the league (and plenty here) have been asking for at least 2 years, regardless of the value of the deal, and I think it's pretty good when you consider that for Pittsburgh it's 99% a rental, the team is moving on
plus, it's Easter weekend....
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03-28-2013, 10:16 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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I'm still sick to my stomach over the whole thing. Don't get me wrong I wanted Iggy gone for the sake of the team, he needed to go for the team to move on but... Ugh disgusting.
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