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MisterJoji · 02-22-2013, 06:14 PM

Just wondering what are the rules of signing a KHL player once their season has ended. His team Avangard Omsk is the #2 seed in the East quarterfinals over in the KHL with series tied at 1-1. With our current goaltender platoon in shambles, I'd say its a pretty safe bet that most of us would like to see if his game can translate to the NHL as soon as possible. Considering Feaster drafted him, I'd say he would like to get him over here quick as well. So if his team were to be taken out in the 1st round, what are the rules on him signing with the Flames? If Kipper is going to be out for awhile still, I'd love to see this guy get a few starts, I mean he can't be much worse than McDonald, Taylor, Irving.

Locke · 02-22-2013, 06:21 PM

I think his contract expires at the end of the season, whenever that may be. At that point I believe his rights are owned by the Flames and hes free to report. Until then hes Soviet property.

MisterJoji · 02-22-2013, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke

I think his contract expires at the end of the season, whenever that may be. At that point I believe his rights are owned by the Flames and hes free to report. Until then hes Soviet property.

At the end of the complete KHL season, or when his team is out of the playoffs?

Locke · 02-22-2013, 06:27 PM

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At the end of the complete KHL season, or when his team is out of the playoffs?

When his team is out of the playoffs. Technically if they're in the playoffs hes still under contract.

EddyBeers · 02-22-2013, 06:30 PM

Was Radulov's team out of the playoffs last year when he came back to honour his NHL contract?

sureLoss · 02-22-2013, 06:31 PM

KHL players keep getting paid and are expected to report til May 1st regardless if their team is still in the playoffs or not:

http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks...eny-kuznetsov/

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KHL contracts run through the end of April each year. Players continue to report to the team and receive paychecks even if their teams do not make the playoffs or are eliminated earlier. A player becomes a free agent on May 1st of his last year under contract. The player’s free agent status will be either restricted (RFA) or unrestricted (UFA) – depending on his age, which is defined by the player’s birth year (e.g all players born in the calendar year 2001 are considered 11 years old for the upcoming free agency season – unless child labor is finally abolished in Russia).

Locke · 02-22-2013, 06:33 PM

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Was Radulov's team out of the playoffs last year when he came back to honour his NHL contract?

I dont remember, but really, it doesnt matter. Radulov doesnt give a rat's ass about inconsequential details like 'contracts' or 'rights' or 'people who take him in their pool only to have him skip off across the pond.'

Basterd.

sureLoss · 02-22-2013, 06:33 PM

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Was Radulov's team out of the playoffs last year when he came back to honour his NHL contract?

Some "unnamed" party (believed to be the Predators) bought out the remaining month of his contract after his KHL team had been eliminated

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl...211640021.html

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Q. Is my understanding correct that Radulov's contract was bought out for a few million dollars?

MEDVEDEV: "I will not name the source of the financing. But the amount is certainly not that big. We are talking about the remainder of this contract — it is a month and a half, until April 30, 2012."

EddyBeers · 02-22-2013, 06:35 PM

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Some "unnamed" party (believed to be the Predators) bought out the remaining month of his contract

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl...211640021.html

So basically the Flames may be able to buy out the remainder of Ramo's contract and bring him over here for the back half of the season.

Locke · 02-22-2013, 06:38 PM

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So basically the Flames may be able to buy out the remainder of Ramo's contract and bring him over here for the back half of the season.

I think they tried that but Avangard werent interested.

dammage79 · 02-22-2013, 06:41 PM

As far as it goes right now. Avangard is tied win their series 1-1 with a guaranteed game march 1st. So if in fact his deal runs out after they lose this series (hypothetically of course), the Flames could potentially see Ramo suit up maybe a week after?

Although Feaster said in a press release during Kipprusoff's initial injury that they had zero plans for Ramo during this season. Of course saying that, they would be foolish if they didn't at least try to get him over as fast as they could if his season in the KHL ended early. But by then it is entirely possible they could be right out of it by then and would be in no hurry.

Edit: NVM, may 1st according to Surelosses posts. So Feasters quotes are more fact than fiction.

sureLoss · 02-22-2013, 06:41 PM

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So basically the Flames may be able to buy out the remainder of Ramo's contract and bring him over here for the back half of the season.

Which is something I think the Flames are open to.

Apparently Ken King told season ticket holders during this past off season that the Flames tried to buyout Ramo's remaining year on his KHL contract but couldn't come to an agreement.

The negotiations may begin again once his KHL team becomes eliminated, but I would think the Flames wouldn't pay very much just to have Ramo play for a couple of months.

1Nite · 02-22-2013, 07:10 PM

Do European players coming over during the season have to pass through some type of waivers?

MisterJoji · 02-22-2013, 07:20 PM

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Do European players coming over during the season have to pass through some type of waivers?

I think only if the player playing in Europe was previously an NHL UFA, such as Nabokov last year. Calgary owns Ramo's rights so he wouldn't be subject to waivers.

Edit: Also waivers are only in play if the player is trying to join the NHL mid-season. If Nabokov would've waited until the end of the season he would been free to sign with Detroit.

Northendzone · 02-22-2013, 07:27 PM

Not too worry, the flames will still be playing on may 1st

FlamingHomer · 02-23-2013, 06:02 AM

I don't know how Kari Rammo is going to help us score goals which is more of a problem than goaltending right now.

handgroen · 02-23-2013, 10:22 AM

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I don't know how Kari Rammo is going to help us score goals which is more of a problem than goaltending right now.

err what?

dissentowner · 02-23-2013, 11:21 AM

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I don't know how Kari Rammo is going to help us score goals which is more of a problem than goaltending right now.

The Calgary Flames have 99 problems but goal scoring ain't one.

vilzeh · 02-23-2013, 01:03 PM

Yeah, I think the goal scoring is a problem with Flames. I don't care what the stats say, if you check the games, you know they are horrible at it, not saying "Screw the stats", because ye that's the only way to look at it of course but the " timed " goals aren't just there. Don't know how to say it better, but I hope you catch my drift!

EddyBeers · 02-23-2013, 01:24 PM

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The Calgary Flames have 99 problems but goal scoring ain't one.

The Flames are 15th in the league in GPG, not sure if it is a blatant weakness but it certainly is not a strength.