4 Dead from highway crash on QE2

[soulchoice]

Wow, not that this is the first time someone has been killed via roads, but this story is saddening. Drunk, driving erratically and in the wrong direction.

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...b=EdmontonHome

I truly hope this ###### pays dearly for his decision to drive drunk, drive erratically and kill innocent people. True definition of a scum bag. However with our legal system being a joke in the country, he will probably get 3-5 years in a min security prison.

This is a true example of times when I wish we had crimes punishable by firing squad.

[dissentowner]

He should receive life sentences for that, I don't care what anybody says that is murder.

[metallicat]

There was a report that he was driving in the wrong direction for 30 kilometres and that he swerved to hit a different vehicle just minutes before this collision. So sad and senseless.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

He should receive life sentences for that, I don't care what anybody says that is murder.

I was gonna suggest a creative death penalty. Put him in a demolition derby in a Neon, with no seatbelt and no added protection. Maybe even let him get liquored up first.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I was gonna suggest a creative death penalty. Put him in a demolition derby in a Neon, with no seatbelt and no added protection. Maybe even let him get liquored up first.

I agree except for the booze part. Many of these drunks don't get hurt because they are in such a relaxed impaired state from the alcohol plus it can dull the pain and that is not acceptable for this guy.

[meanmachine13]

I dont think people should be allowed to refuse a breathalyzer sample after a motor vehicle accident.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by meanmachine13

I dont think people should be allowed to refuse a breathalyzer sample after a motor vehicle accident.

Well, what other choice do they have, they literally cannot force someone to take it.

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Well, what other choice do they have, they literally cannot force someone to take it.

They could (in theory) force him to give a blood sample which they could get a sample with. (ie. strap him down and draw blood out)...obviously they don't do it, but there's other ways of getting a sample other than just breath.

[Madman]

Originally Posted by jar_e

They could (in theory) force him to give a blood sample which they could get a sample with. (ie. strap him down and draw blood out)...obviously they don't do it, but there's other ways of getting a sample other than just breath.

Yeah, he might just accidentally hit his head on the cruiser's door, or walk into the cell door or even have a little tumble down some stairs.

[EVERLAST]

Murder with a car.....sorry not only should this guy get pinned down and have blood drawn .....yeah dont even get me started abut drunk drivers killing innocent people..there are always better choices fer chrisssakes

[metallicat]

Isn't refusing a breath sample basically the same as blowing over with a breathalyzer?

[FiftyBelow]

Absolutely heartbreaking. I feel awful for their families. Many temporary workers from the Philippines (OFWs) go abroad to earn money for their immediate families living back home. A lot of people just lost, not only a father/mother/sibling, but individuals who they greatly depend upon for making a living.

[CaptainCrunch]

If you refuse a breathalyzer test then it is the same as failing, however it all comes down now to be unable to prove that he was impaired in court.

I would think that opens up room for a negotiated lesser sentence.

Personally this person should be treated like a multiple murderer, and he should have to serve consecutive sentences one for each death.

I'm so sick of reading about drinking and driving incidences and then these people getting light sentences.

Remember Daniel Tschetter the a##hole who wiped out a family of five while driving a cement truck and decided it was more important to cover up his actions by disposing of the liquor bottle before checking on the family and then refused to blow in 2007, the guy who had 20 previous violations? The guy that's been getting unescorted leave from prison since 2011?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...er-parole.html

I've said that I disagree with the .05 driving laws that the Provincial government is enacting, I've said that we need to look more at the punitive effects of people that make the decision of driving drunk and especially those who injure or kill people.

The drunk driving thing just makes me incredibly angry.

I think that the minute that you injure someone in an accident then you should have absolutely no right to refuse a breathalyzer test or a blood test. I would have rather had the government put in the effort to push that through to the supreme court.

F$$king Drunk Drivers.

[Joborule]

These are the drunk drivers that Redford should be targeting; those above .08. They actually kill people.

Hope justice system isn't soft on him.

[3 Justin 3]

These kind of people deserve the death penalty. It may be old school and not "westernized", but these kind of scum don't deserve life. May seem a bit harsh, but that's what I believe anyway.

[Table 5]

Of course the tit that did the drunk driving survives the accident as usual, while the 4 innocents pay for his mistake. Just ridiculous.

[freedogger]

Originally Posted by jar_e

They could (in theory) force him to give a blood sample which they could get a sample with. (ie. strap him down and draw blood out)...obviously they don't do it, but there's other ways of getting a sample other than just breath.

I don't think it matters. The law treats it same if you blew over DRUNK when refusing. I hope he is named and shamed along with all of his relatives that obviously knew he was like this. Driving a Range Rover - hope his and those close to him get their deep pockets drained by this.

[speede5]

I think drunk drivers deserve their due, but I sure hope they never make it so police can just draw a sample on their own discretion. Think about what you are allowing. Suppose you have an accident and are slightly disoriented. Would you like it if some cop decides to take your blood just cause he can?

[Red Potato Standing By]

Originally Posted by freedogger

I don't think it matters. The law treats it same if you blew over DRUNK when refusing. I hope he is named and shamed along with all of his relatives that obviously knew he was like this. Driving a Range Rover - hope his and those close to him get their deep pockets drained by this.

Seriously, I agree he should strung up. But why should his relatives have anything to do with it? It was not their decision to be an idiot.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by speede5

I think drunk drivers deserve their due, but I sure hope they never make it so police can just draw a sample on their own discretion. Think about what you are allowing. Suppose you have an accident and are slightly disoriented. Would you like it if some cop decides to take your blood just cause he can?

So you appoint judges that have to be available 24 hours a day to issue a warrant.

Your blood is possible evidence in a homicide.

Either that or you completely tighten up the whole refusing a blood test or breathalyser and how it impacts in court, and with the appeals process.

There was a case recently where a guy was picked up for drinking and driving and causing a accident. He refused to supply a sample without talking to a lawyer, then he say in a room pretending to try to contact a lawyer for multiple hours which meant that the sample wouldn't be accurate.

They should inform people that they have 10 minutes to make up their mind, if they don't provide then they are considered to be drunk with no argument in the courts and any appeal of a sentence based around a lack of proof created by refusing to submit will be denied.