Starting on Jan. 1, 2013. The mayor was trying to scrap the 5 cent fee, but the counsellors surprised him by voting to ban plastic bags altogether.. and now he is pissed. A classic case of "be careful what you wish for" I suppose.
I am not really sure how to feel about this. I don't actually use them anymore. I have about 20 cloth shopping bags I take with me, but occasionally I ask for plastic bags because I use them as kitchen garbage bags. I don't actually live right in Toronto, so it shouldn't affect me, but I could see this spreading soon.
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Paper, plastic, gold jacket, green jacket. Who gives a ####.
Environmentalists, small business owners, forests and landfills would all be affected. I know if I am out and about and have an impulse to pick up a few things, I might wait instead of having to use paper bags which are too much of a pain to carry. Not good for the smaller convenient stores.
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I'm cool with charging for bags because the business does incur the cost and to me its simply passing it on to the consumer, and if the consumer doesn't want to pay the cost they can avoid it by having their own bags. Outright banning them seems over the top for sure. FlamesAddiction mentioned it but its the smaller businesses that will end up suffering more for this.
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Fort McMurray did this several years ago now, and I don't think any of that has been affected. It becomes normal to remember to have a bag in your vehicle or make sure you grab one if you're just walking over to the corner store.
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Ah another thread to make me feel like a bad person...
One thing I never got was - why can't you re use plastic bags? Why do you have to spend a $1 for the "reusable bag" when you could just as easily bring your old bags back? When I was a kid the corner store down the street used to use old Safeway and Co-op bags if you needed one. However, to them it was probably more about cost cutting than the environment.
I reckon sales of garbage bags are going to increase. Unless I've been doing it wrong and I'm not suppose to line my trash cans either?
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Like putting a secret police service on an oilsands that is not under attack?
What you are suffering from sir, is cognitive dissonance.
How exactly is there a conflict between implied approval (through the use of sarcasm) of a plastic bag ban, and approval of the creation of a counterterrorism unit?
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How exactly is there a conflict between implied approval (through the use of sarcasm) of a plastic bag ban, and approval of the creation of a counterterrorism unit?
There is an actual environmental threat with one, a polluting of our fills and oceans, and an imaginary threat for another that hasn't had a significant attack in 20 years, but substantial bad media.
I'm glad they are taking your bags away jerk. I want more rules on you! You obviously cannot police yourself.
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There is an actual environmental threat with one, a polluting of our fills and oceans, and an imaginary threat for another that hasn't had a significant attack in 20 years, but substantial bad media.
I'm glad they are taking your bags away jerk. I want more rules on you! You obviously cannot police yourself.
Okay one more time.
How exactly does any of this conflict
I am in favour of a no plastic gat policy because I feel it will prevent environmental damage with little to no impact to every day life.
I am in favour of creation of a counterterrorism unit in no small part becasue I believe it has the potential to stop major envirionmental consequences, with little impact on every day life.
How exactly are those to positions incosistent with each other.
Things done to help protect environment with little impact on every day life:
Plastic bag ban
Counterterrorism
Things I'm in favour of:
Plastic bag ban
Counterterrorism
Contadictions apparent above:
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For the sake of BringBackShantz, I want to speed up this law in Calgary.
We got our (non) smoking law moved up a year on the power of CP. The bags are a matter of time. Cannot we not be more forward moving than Edmonton and Vancouver?
We have the best water filtration system in the world. Lets back it up and do our part. I vote we ban plastic bags!
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Fort McMurray did this several years ago now, and I don't think any of that has been affected. It becomes normal to remember to have a bag in your vehicle or make sure you grab one if you're just walking over to the corner store.
Do major stores like Safeway have paper bags available? I personally prefer paper in most cases, but it seems to be such a hassle as they try and dig them out.
As for re-using bags (either plastic or fabric)- how do you guys feel about things like meat being in those bags? Am I being to germaphobic to think that something the leaks blood should not be used later on for fresh food like veggies?
Plastic Shopping Bags Banned in Toronto
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