05-19-2012, 09:28 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Get a better power supply. IMO, your MOBO and PS are the backbone of your system and future upgrades rely on both being able to keep up.
Can't go wrong with an Antec case.
I'm guessing no gaming with this rig? If you do plan to, I'd consider a better Graphics card. If your just surfin and such, it's totally fine.
The rest I can't really comment on, it's been a couple of years since I built my last rig so don't know enough about current hardware as far as MOBO's and processors.
Last edited by GoinAllTheWay; 05-19-2012 at 09:33 PM.
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05-19-2012, 09:35 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay
Get a better power supply. IMO, your MOBO and PS are the backbone of your system and future upgrades rely on both being able to keep up.
Can't go wrong with an Antec case.
I'm guessing no gaming with this rig? If you do plan to, I'd consider a better Graphics card. If your just surfin and such, it's totally fine.
The rest I can't really comment on, it's been a couple of years since I built my last rig so don't know enough about current hardware as far as MOBO's and processors.
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Yeah I'll just be doing casual gaming, but I'm thinking I should level out the price with the video card and the processor.. lol.
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05-19-2012, 10:22 PM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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With no gaming or just casual gaming, the PSU is fine.
On that note, forget the AMD CPU and mobo and even the videocard for the moment ($365 together).
And buy this Core™ i5-3570K Processor w/ Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H Motherboard bundle for $369
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Product...3570K_Z77XUD3H
I'd also swap the 1TB Seagate for $99 for the 128GB Crucial M4 for $99
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX35603
But I'm biased toward SSDs and advocate them in EVERYTHING.
Last edited by Hack&Lube; 05-20-2012 at 12:00 AM.
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05-19-2012, 10:48 PM
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Should I buy Windows 7 OS.. or it is better torrent it illegally?
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05-19-2012, 11:08 PM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SHOGUN
Should I buy Windows 7 OS.. or it is better torrent it illegally?
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Better? What do you mean by that?
Nobody is going to advocate piracy on a public message board but if you have to ask this question then you don't have the technical savvy to deal with the 2nd option when it breaks or inactivates itself which may or may not happen.
Last edited by Hack&Lube; 05-19-2012 at 11:11 PM.
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05-19-2012, 11:42 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
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I would never pirate Windows 7, but that's just me. Too much hassle.
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05-20-2012, 12:02 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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05-20-2012, 02:15 AM
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GOAT!
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Repeat after me:
I will not build a brand new computer without a solid state system drive.
I will not build a brand new computer without a solid state system drive.
I will not build a brand new computer without a solid state system drive.
I will not build a brand new computer without a solid state system drive.
I will not build a brand new computer without a solid state system drive.
I will not build a brand new computer without a solid state system drive.
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05-20-2012, 03:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
Repeat after me:
I will not build a brand new computer without a solid state system drive.
I will not build a brand new computer without a solid state system drive.
I will not build a brand new computer without a solid state system drive.
I will not build a brand new computer without a solid state system drive.
I will not build a brand new computer without a solid state system drive.
I will not build a brand new computer without a solid state system drive.
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Will probably buy one later... 1TB is a lot compared to 128 gb SSD though.
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05-20-2012, 04:07 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SHOGUN
Will probably buy one later... 1TB is a lot compared to 128 gb SSD though.
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I recommend doing a disk image for later then. That way it's an easy transfer once you get the SSD.
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05-20-2012, 04:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest
I recommend doing a disk image for later then. That way it's an easy transfer once you get the SSD.
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What's a disk image? And why's a SSD essential for a PC build?
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05-20-2012, 05:14 AM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest
I recommend doing a disk image for later then. That way it's an easy transfer once you get the SSD.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SHOGUN
What's a disk image?
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It doesn't matter because general users should never, ever do that.
Installing an OS onto an SSD should be done fresh. For people who don't know how to tweak these things themselves, the OS recognizes SSDs and will install differently and configure itself differently (TRIM enabled for one thing) than compared to a mechanical drive. Imaging/cloning a mechanical drive to an SSD is a pretty bad idea because even the OS will be misconfigured and your partitions will be mis-aligned. A regular hard drive usually starts its first partition after 63 empty blocks, while SSDs require 64 blocks of data for optimal performance. Correcting this requires a ton of effort with another system, gparted, and messing with your blocks and cylinders and moving data around which will further shorten the life of an SSD. Cloning a mechanical drive to an SSD without making any corrections may confuse the controller and optimization routines also.
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05-20-2012, 05:20 AM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SHOGUN
why's a SSD essential for a PC build?
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Because quite frankly, it's more important than any of the other items you bought and you could have definitely have trimmed some costs here and there to afford one. More than anything that you bought, an SSD will be the one item that will give you the most tangible feeling of a fast computer. Boot in 10 seconds, programs load almost instantly, no sitting around and waiting around for a dumb, slow, mechanical drive.
If you buy one later you will have to reinstall everything again.
The 1TB drive would be only for large files like movies, music, general storage, etc. Do you already have a computer of some sort? Return the 1TB drive, buy an SSD, and use your old harddrives for mass storage.
Last edited by Hack&Lube; 05-20-2012 at 05:25 AM.
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05-20-2012, 05:43 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
Because quite frankly, it's more important than any of the other items you bought and you could have definitely have trimmed some costs here and there to afford one. More than anything that you bought, an SSD will be the one item that will give you the most tangible feeling of a fast computer. Boot in 10 seconds, programs load almost instantly, no sitting around and waiting around for a dumb, slow, mechanical drive.
If you buy one later you will have to reinstall everything again.
The 1TB drive would be only for large files like movies, music, general storage, etc. Do you already have a computer of some sort? Return the 1TB drive, buy an SSD, and use your old harddrives for mass storage.
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I have a crap load of music.. so I figured I would need the storage. I only own a crappy laptop so removing the hard drive from that isn't an option. If I were to get an SSD card later, how would I reinstall everything? Is it the same as reformatting the drives and OS?
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05-20-2012, 06:05 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
It doesn't matter because general users should never, ever do that.
Installing an OS onto an SSD should be done fresh. For people who don't know how to tweak these things themselves, the OS recognizes SSDs and will install differently and configure itself differently (TRIM enabled for one thing) than compared to a mechanical drive. Imaging/cloning a mechanical drive to an SSD is a pretty bad idea because even the OS will be misconfigured and your partitions will be mis-aligned. A regular hard drive usually starts its first partition after 63 empty blocks, while SSDs require 64 blocks of data for optimal performance. Correcting this requires a ton of effort with another system, gparted, and messing with your blocks and cylinders and moving data around which will further shorten the life of an SSD. Cloning a mechanical drive to an SSD without making any corrections may confuse the controller and optimization routines also.
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I disk imaged my HDD after I installed everything I wanted... However, it's possible, and yes there will be work to do.
You can use http://www.paragon-software.com/ which is a disk manager and then fix the alignment issue from there.
Here is info on how to align your ssd Migrate that bitch!
However, if you are a bit n00b, I'd recommend not doing it as well... 
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05-20-2012, 06:07 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SHOGUN
What's a disk image? And why's a SSD essential for a PC build?
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Essentially its a back up of a clean install with everything ready to go. So IF something happens you don't have to spend a day fixing everything. You just re-install!
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05-20-2012, 09:25 AM
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
Because quite frankly, it's more important than any of the other items you bought and you could have definitely have trimmed some costs here and there to afford one. More than anything that you bought, an SSD will be the one item that will give you the most tangible feeling of a fast computer. Boot in 10 seconds, programs load almost instantly, no sitting around and waiting around for a dumb, slow, mechanical drive.
If you buy one later you will have to reinstall everything again.
The 1TB drive would be only for large files like movies, music, general storage, etc. Do you already have a computer of some sort? Return the 1TB drive, buy an SSD, and use your old harddrives for mass storage.
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Where does one put one's massive Steam folder with such a setup?
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