03-15-2012, 03:35 PM
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16yr old girl forced to marry her rapist, commits suicide (Morocco)
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Outrage has been building in Morocco's online community over the case of a 16-year-old girl who committed suicide after being forced to marry her rapist.
According to the local press, Amina Filali died after taking rat poison on Saturday.
She had been married for the past five months to a man who raped her a year earlier.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/online-o...#ixzz1pDw0bhG4
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03-15-2012, 03:38 PM
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Not to go all Cheese here but...YAY RELIGION!
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03-15-2012, 03:40 PM
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This sounds perfectly reasonable, whats the problem?
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03-15-2012, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Not to go all Cheese here but...YAY RELIGION!
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Why do you assume this has to do with religion? It has more to do with cultural tradition than anything to do with Islam.
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03-15-2012, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
Why do you assume this has to do with religion? It has more to do with cultural tradition than anything to do with Islam.
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Because Morocco has a very strict Islamic penal code in place.
edit: I don't want to get into a religious debate (which might happen either way in a thread like this)
Last edited by Flabbibulin; 03-15-2012 at 04:27 PM.
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03-15-2012, 04:03 PM
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The Moroccan penal code allows for a rapist to marry his victim to escape prosecution and preserve her family's honour, according to traditional practice.
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That's messed up.
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03-15-2012, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
Why do you assume this has to do with religion? It has more to do with cultural tradition than anything to do with Islam.
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Its probably tied to it in some way or another.
Same reason why Gays cant marry in some places (because the bible says its evil  )
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03-15-2012, 04:08 PM
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I might be misinformed, but isn't this practice something that is not directly spawned from Islamic law, but a 'feature' added by a few countries where it is a cultural thing?
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03-15-2012, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rathji
I might be misinformed, but isn't this practice something that is not directly spawned from Islamic law, but a 'feature' added by a few countries where it is a cultural thing?
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Sharia (sp?) law perhaps?
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03-15-2012, 04:14 PM
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This comment made me shake my head
The muslim faith is one of freedom and peace. The countries that introduce shariah law are clearly far more peaceful and less troubled than the decadent west.
Clearly!!!
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03-15-2012, 04:15 PM
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Sharia is Islamic law, no?
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03-15-2012, 04:20 PM
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The ruling is based on a "family code" in Morocco called the Mudawana, which is based in Islamic traditions. Here is the wikipedia entry on this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudawana
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03-15-2012, 04:20 PM
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A few things from the Quran and other things
Sûrah an Nâs 4.119
'O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will...'
During the time of the Prophet (saw) punishment was inflicted on the rapist on the solitary evidence of the woman who was raped by him. Wa'il ibn Hujr reports of an incident when a woman was raped. Later, when some people came by, she identified and accused the man of raping her. They seized him and brought him to Allah's messenger, who said to the woman, "Go away, for Allâh has forgiven you," but of the man who had raped her, he said, "Stone him to death." (Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud)
During the time when Umar (raa) was the Khalifah, a woman accused his son Abu Shahmah of raping her; she brought the infant borne of this incident with her to the mosque and publicly spoke about what had happened. Umar (raa) asked his son who acknowledged committing the crime and was duly punished right there and then. There was no punishment given to the woman. (Rauf)
Rape as hiraba is a violent crime that uses sexual intercourse as a weapon. The focus in a hiraba prosecution is the accused rapist and his intent and physical actions, and not second-guessing the consent of the rape victim. Hiraba does not require four witnesses to prove the offense, circumstantial evidence, medical data and expert testimony form the evidence used to prosecute such crimes.
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03-15-2012, 04:25 PM
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Difference between Islam and the Bible.... the victim's father is out 50 shekels.
"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her."
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03-15-2012, 04:27 PM
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Exactly, this notion of rape/marriage is straight from Deuteronomy.
Not specific to Islam, it happens in Jewish, Christian, and secular countries as well.
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03-15-2012, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by malcolmk14
Exactly, this notion of rape/marriage is straight from Deuteronomy.
Not specific to Islam, it happens in Jewish, Christian, and secular countries as well.
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So if I rape Kate Upton....
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03-15-2012, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
So if I rape Kate Upton....
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Just make sure you're good for the 50 shekels...whatever the hell those are.
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03-15-2012, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by malcolmk14
Exactly, this notion of rape/marriage is straight from Deuteronomy.
Not specific to Islam, it happens in Jewish, Christian, and secular countries as well.
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You say Christian, but does the New Testament cover this area? I really am not sure if it does. You mention the Book of Deuteronomy in relation to Christianity, but that really isn't contextualizing things very well considering that the book of Romans makes it clear that followers of Christ are free from the law of the OT.
And I don't think that modern day Judaism would actually follow these passages today anyways- at least, I don't think so.
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03-15-2012, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Flabbibulin
You say Christian, but does the New Testament cover this area? I really am not sure if it does. You mention the Book of Deuteronomy in relation to Christianity, but that really isn't contextualizing things very well considering that the book of Romans makes it clear that followers of Christ are free from the law of the OT.
And I don't think that modern day Judaism would actually follow these passages today- at least, I don't think so.
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Fair enough about Christianity. I was trying to support the point that it's more of a Middle East cultural thing than an Islamic thing.
There are Islamic countries where this type of thing does not happen, and 'secular' countries where it does.
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03-15-2012, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Flabbibulin
You say Christian, but does the New Testament cover this area? I really am not sure if it does. You mention the Book of Deuteronomy in relation to Christianity, but that really isn't contextualizing things very well considering that the book of Romans makes it clear that followers of Christ are free from the law of the OT.
And I don't think that modern day Judaism would actually follow these passages today anyways- at least, I don't think so.
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There in lies the rub, you don't think modern day Christians and Jews would follow those passages, but I'm sure some do. There are fundamentalists in every faith that take the Bible/Quran/Torah literally. Seems pretty clear to me from the Sura and Hadiths that CaptainCrunch quoted that this sort of behaviour isn't enshrined in the religion.
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