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DeanOMac · 06-02-2005, 05:41 PM

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/...er_video3a.html

I side with the police on this one.

Some background on the victim whose none too intelligent:
- speeding
- talking on a cellphone (not sure if its illegal in Florida) but still stupid
- not wearing a seatbelt
- cracked windshield
- broken tail light
and a suspended license.

photon · 06-02-2005, 06:18 PM

There is something seriously wrong with that woman.

Buff · 06-02-2005, 06:50 PM

I just heard the most annoying sound in the world.

It seems to me that she was p*ssed off because she was pulled over and was going to try to turn things around on the cop to give him a bad rep. You could hear her talking to her friend on the phone and if you were on the phone you may have easily believed that the police were not treating her fairly.

- oh my god the police are trying to get me out of the car
- oh my god he is aiming a gun at me

She then proceeds to overact after she has been tasered. Annoying! She even said that she was going to sue them.

Well she did bring attention to the officer if this event is in the news, however it looks like the majority of the public is on the side of the officer in this case.

She won't get very far in the courts if she does sue.

Mean Mr. Mustard · 06-02-2005, 06:53 PM

I would use the Taser to shut her up.

I am half way through, how long does she go on for. I mean come on.....

metallicat · 06-02-2005, 06:54 PM

I have been tasered (not the five second shot, just the quick stun-gun method), and YES it hurts like hell, but NO it doesn't hurt at all after it's over. What is with people not obeying police officer instructions? I think the obvious answer is that people are just plain stupid.

PS- Just so you know, me getting tasered has nothing to do with me breaking the law. I knew it was coming.

RougeUnderoos · 06-02-2005, 06:57 PM

That footage isn't really representative of the whole thing. He didn't just hop out of the car and shoot her with that thing so you should all watch the footage underneath called "the traffic stop" first.

Some bullshinguard commentary from that other cop though -- "if he pulled her out of the car she might get hurt by falling on her face". That's nice. They were so worried about her falling down they decide to electrocute her.

I wonder what happened to the Phantom Punch. She could win the heavyweight title with that one. It's so quick that even the camera can't pick it up.

metallicat · 06-02-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by fotze@Jun 2 2005, 06:56 PM
The cop was obviously not in danger at any time but I was saying to my self TAZE THE BITCH. Then as she was moaning I was saying REALLY TAZE HER HARD AGAIN AND AGAIN. The it was tape her trap shut.

How did they not taze her more, I would have gone crazy.

I usually will err on the side of cops but this chic is definately going to sue and her behavior makes it look like that.

You don't know that. Who knows why she was resisting arrest. She could have been delaying and wasting time so that she could reach for a gun.

RougeUnderoos · 06-02-2005, 07:04 PM

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The cop was obviously not in danger at any time but I was saying to my self TAZE THE BITCH. Then as she was moaning I was saying REALLY TAZE HER HARD AGAIN AND AGAIN. The it was tape her trap shut.

How did they not taze her more, I would have gone crazy.

I usually will err on the side of cops but this chic is definately going to sue and her behavior makes it look like that.

You don't know that. Who knows why she was resisting arrest. She could have been delaying and wasting time so that she could reach for a gun. [/b][/quote]
From the looks of it he didn't seem to think he was in much danger. What he heard over the horn was that her license was suspended, not that she had Osama bin Laden in the trunk.

The "wasting time so she could look for a gun" idea is quite far fetched. The guy was right on top of her.

metallicat · 06-02-2005, 07:08 PM

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The cop was obviously not in danger at any time but I was saying to my self TAZE THE BITCH. Then as she was moaning I was saying REALLY TAZE HER HARD AGAIN AND AGAIN. The it was tape her trap shut.

How did they not taze her more, I would have gone crazy.

I usually will err on the side of cops but this chic is definately going to sue and her behavior makes it look like that.

You don't know that. Who knows why she was resisting arrest. She could have been delaying and wasting time so that she could reach for a gun.

From the looks of it he didn't seem to think he was in much danger. What he heard over the horn was that her license was suspended, not that she had Osama bin Laden in the trunk.

The "wasting time so she could look for a gun" idea is quite far fetched. The guy was right on top of her. [/b][/quote]
It may seem far fetched, but a cop not caring or worrying about stuff like that is what gets them killed. Traffic stops are dangerous, and are one of the biggest killers of police officers on the job. Had she simply obeyed the officers orders, we wouldn't even be discussing this right now.

RougeUnderoos · 06-02-2005, 07:55 PM

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The cop was obviously not in danger at any time but I was saying to my self TAZE THE BITCH.# Then as she was moaning I was saying REALLY TAZE HER HARD AGAIN AND AGAIN.# The it was tape her trap shut.

How did they not taze her more, I would have gone crazy.

I usually will err on the side of cops but this chic is definately going to sue and her behavior makes it look like that.

You don't know that. Who knows why she was resisting arrest. She could have been delaying and wasting time so that she could reach for a gun.

From the looks of it he didn't seem to think he was in much danger. What he heard over the horn was that her license was suspended, not that she had Osama bin Laden in the trunk.

The "wasting time so she could look for a gun" idea is quite far fetched. The guy was right on top of her.

It may seem far fetched, but a cop not caring or worrying about stuff like that is what gets them killed. Traffic stops are dangerous, and are one of the biggest killers of police officers on the job. Had she simply obeyed the officers orders, we wouldn't even be discussing this right now. [/b][/quote]
Thanks but I know all that.

photon · 06-02-2005, 08:11 PM

The guidelines they have seem to try and do the least amount of harm in the most number of situations..

Was she dangerous? Probably not and the officers probably didn't suspect it, but we've all watched the shows where the seemingly innocent person pulls a weapon or backs into the cop car. Could she have gotten hurt from them pulling her out of the vehicle? Again probably not, but again it's possible. Enough cops have been hurt or killed on traffic stops in big cities that they all seem to have guidelines that try to minimize the risk for everyone.

And they didn't electrocute her, they taser'd her. They're designed to subdue without causing any injury. The cops are instructed to use it because it's a choice between some risk and almost no risk.

Was he quick on the draw with it? Maybe a little but he did give clear instructions quite a few times. She was resisting arrest. She was confrontational with the officer. She was even calling for "backup" and told them she didn't trust them! What's he supposed to do?

She sounded like a little baby throwing a tantrum in a store. Even my son doesn't throw a tantrum like that when things don't go his way and he's 11 months...

photon · 06-02-2005, 08:36 PM

Isn't electrocution "Death caused by electricity."? Saying she was electrocuted instead of shocked or tazered is using an extreme word to try and make something sound worse than it really is.

I agree though I could totally see a jury deciding against them and they'll probably settle out of court to prevent going to trial.

photon · 06-02-2005, 08:58 PM

I guess I've heard people use it for being shocked by an electric fence or outlet or something, but that's not what the word means. The definition of electrocution is death by electricity.

MassFlames · 06-02-2005, 09:32 PM

this stupid bitch got what she had coming to her

why is it that people think cops are going to put up with their bullshinguard?

RougeUnderoos · 06-02-2005, 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by photon@Jun 2 2005, 08:36 PM
Isn't electrocution "Death caused by electricity."? Saying she was electrocuted instead of shocked or tazered is using an extreme word to try and make something sound worse than it really is.

Nah. It's the other way around. Saying she was "tazered" or "shocked" is a euphemistic way of saying she was electrocuted.

I get shocked when I pull on my favorite wool Christmas Sweater and then flick off the light switch and get a zap. I've never been tazered so I don't know about that.

But... since you bring the dictionary into it I must admit defeat. But since mine doesn't have either the words "tazer" or "taser" it might be a draw.

Anyhoo, this all reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons when Bart went on the ridealong with the cops and this came up...

Bart: Wow! Can I see your club?
Lou: It's called a baton, son.
Bart: Oh. What's it for?
Lou: We club people with it.

FlamesAddiction · 06-02-2005, 09:47 PM

Well, she was warned several times. She was pulled over for legitimate reasons.

I didn't see the "swing" she took at them though. I think that was either false or exaggerated, but at the same time, I don't think it matters.

And what an awful sound!!

I do wonder if cops are not becoming more taser happy these days though. It used to be more of a self-defense or last resort kind of thing, now it seems to be an everyday tool that is replacing negotiation skills and verbal tactics. Cops used to be trained to talk and use their brains to subdue stubborn people, now it seems like they just taser them instead.

Buff · 06-02-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by fotze@Jun 2 2005, 09:01 PM
Once again an engineer is outwitted by the IT guy.

Well... duh!

What is so unordinary about that?

HOZ · 06-03-2005, 12:09 AM

aaaaaaaaa.....(inhale) aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa(inhale)aaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Please beat the arrogant little princess into silence!

shoestring · 06-03-2005, 12:11 AM

Cops have to be real careful these days. I think it has something to do with them looking for bad guys but that is another discussion.

There is a lot of jerks/idiots/tough guys/ youngsters/gangguys/bikers/scaredfataers and then the women; it would all scare me and I congratualate the cops that are good cops.

I would love to see the police put together a serious realization program of the effects of copdom.

CaptainCrunch · 06-03-2005, 12:31 AM

Its not so much reaching for a gun as a fear that she's going to drop the gas and take off, maybe running somebody over.

The fact is when a cop tells me to get out of the car, I get out of the car.

Stupid cow

And all that crying and moaning she's setting up for the law suit and the first statement out of her lawyer will be

My client an innocent black woman who was unknowingly driving with a suspended license was harrassed and attacked by the white establishment.

Its another example of the Rodney King Syndrome.

Hopefully the judge confiscates her car and tears up her license forever.

bah