Canada Census 2011

[troutman]

Census Metro Areas:

http://www12.statcan.ca/census-recen...50#symbol-apop

Calgary had biggest growth at 12.6% since 2006.

Provinces:

http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-re...1&SR=1&S=3&O=D

[troutman]

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quoti...20208a-eng.htm



The population of Canada increased 5.9% between the 2006 and 2011 censuses, compared with a 5.4% increase during the previous five-year period. A full analysis is available in the report, The Canadian Population in 2011: Population Counts and Growth.

The increase in the growth rate was attributable to slightly higher fertility and to an increase in the number of non-permanent residents and immigrants.

Canada's population increased at a faster rate than the population of any other member of the G8 group of industrialized nations between 2006 and 2011. This was also the case between 2001 and 2006.

Net international migration (the difference between immigrants and emigrants) accounted for two-thirds of Canada's population growth during the last 10 years, and natural increase (the difference between births and deaths) for about one-third. In contrast, recent population growth in the United States has been mainly the result of natural increase.

The 2011 Census of Population enumerated 33,476,688 people in Canada, compared with 31,612,897 in 2006.

[malcolmk14]

If Okotoks was counted we would have passed Ottawa-Gatineau as the fourth largest CMA in Canada.

[Old Yeller]

I'm actually surprised our population density is as high as it is... I always thought Calgary's land area was huge compared to most other cities.

Edmonton, Halifax, Winnipeg and Saskatoon all have a larger land mass with smaller populations than Calgary.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

If Okotoks was counted we would have passed Ottawa-Gatineau as the fourth largest CMA in Canada.

I think Ottawa is surrounded by more large towns outside the metro area than Calgary - ex. Carleton Place, Arnprior.

http://ottawa.ca/en/city_hall/statis...ctions/extent/

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

If Okotoks was counted we would have passed Ottawa-Gatineau as the fourth largest CMA in Canada.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/93-600-...itions-eng.htm

Seems to indicate Okotoks would qualify as part of the Calgary CMA if 50% or more of the employed persons living in Okotoks work in Calgary. I would have thought that was true, in which case it should be included. If that's not true, I'm surprised.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Old Yeller

I'm actually surprised our population density is as high as it is... I always thought Calgary's land area was huge compared to most other cities.

Edmonton, Halifax, Winnipeg and Saskatoon all have a larger land mass with smaller populations than Calgary.

You have the local 'New Urbanists' to blame. Their constant 'sprawl' talk would make you believe that Calgary was at the extreme end relative to North America. While they certainly have a point about car dependancy and better city planning, the Calgary area is not as bad as it's made out to be for sprawl. It takes a visit to places where real sprawl exists (Dalls-Fort worth-Arlington Metroplex among others), to actually realize that point.

[Arsenal14]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/93-600-...itions-eng.htm

Seems to indicate Okotoks would qualify as part of the Calgary CMA if 50% or more of the employed persons living in Okotoks work in Calgary. I would have thought that was true, in which case it should be included. If that's not true, I'm surprised.

As I recall it isn't included because the MD that surrounds it doesn't qualify and a CMA must be contiguous. Something like that at any rate.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Arsenal14

As I recall it isn't included because the MD that surrounds it doesn't qualify and a CMA must be contiguous. Something like that at any rate.

Well, I'd hate for logic and critical thinking to get in the way of the gov't arbitrarily applying rules. Okotoks has had huge growth. Does anyone think that's because of the booming Okotoks economy? Or are those people de-facto Calgarians?

Put another way, if Okotoks wasn't right next to Calgary, how many of the people who live there now still would? I bet it's not many.

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

You have the local 'New Urbanists' to blame. Their constant 'sprawl' talk would make you believe that Calgary was at the extreme end relative to North America. While they certainly have a point about car dependancy and better city planning, the Calgary area is not as bad as it's made out to be for sprawl. It takes a visit to places where real sprawl exists (Dalls-Fort worth-Arlington Metroplex among others), to actually realize that point.

...or even the 905 in the Greater Toronto Area. Lots of truly unplanned, leapfrog development.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/93-600-...itions-eng.htm

Seems to indicate Okotoks would qualify as part of the Calgary CMA if 50% or more of the employed persons living in Okotoks work in Calgary. I would have thought that was true, in which case it should be included. If that's not true, I'm surprised.

No, Okotoks is its own CA (census agglomerations), as are Strathmore and High River. Beiseker, on the other hand, is part of the Calgary CMA, even though it's further from downtown Calgary than Okotoks, Strathmore, or High River.

Here are all the communities in the Calgary CMA: http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-re...S=0&O=D&RPP=25

Here's the Ottawa/Gatineau CMA: http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-re...5&PR=0&CMA=505


StatsCan also has what they call "Economic Regions" and Calgary's Economic Region has a population of 1,311,022 (compared to 1,214,839 for the CMA), where Ottawa's is 1,244,909 (compared to 1,236,324 for the CMA).

The Calgary CMA's land area is 5,107.55km² and the Calgary ER is 12,645.88km². The Ottawa CMA is 6,287.03km² and the Ottawa ER is 14,521.24km².

That would seem to indicate that the Ottawa CMA number includes most of the surrounding communities, but Calgary's doesn't.


All I know is that when I visit Ottawa (which I do about once a year for work), it doesn't "feel" as big as Calgary.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by getbak

That would seem to indicate that the Ottawa CMA number includes most of the surrounding communities, but Calgary's doesn't.

All I know is that when I visit Ottawa (which I do about once a year for work), it doesn't "feel" as big as Calgary.

Ontario has been settled much longer than Alberta, and there are many more good-sized small towns surrounding Ottawa, compared to Calgary.

ONTARIO MUNICIPALITIES ADJACENT TO OTTAWA (OMATO)141,639
QUÉBEC MUNICIPALITIES ADJACENT TO GATINEAU (QMAG)48,537

In 2006, about 190,000 in towns surrounding the Ottawa Metro area.

http://ottawa.ca/en/city_hall/statis...ctions/extent/

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by troutman

I think Ottawa is surrounded by more large towns outside the metro area than Calgary - ex. Carleton Place, Arnprior.

http://ottawa.ca/en/city_hall/statis...ctions/extent/

Don't forget my favourite.... Rockland!

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

You have the local 'New Urbanists' to blame. Their constant 'sprawl' talk would make you believe that Calgary was at the extreme end relative to North America. While they certainly have a point about car dependancy and better city planning, the Calgary area is not as bad as it's made out to be for sprawl. It takes a visit to places where real sprawl exists (Dalls-Fort worth-Arlington Metroplex among others), to actually realize that point.

Or Saskatoon. According to that data, it has a larger land area than Calgary, but about 1/5th of the population.

Also interesting to note that Canada's three largest cities, Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver have about quadruple the population density of most other Canadian cities.

[OffsideSpecialist]

Originally Posted by getbak

All I know is that when I visit Ottawa (which I do about once a year for work), it doesn't "feel" as big as Calgary.

Ottawa's population is only about 900,000. Ottawa certainly is smaller than Calgary and it definitely has a smaller feel too it. The reason its CMA is so high is because approximately 300,000 people, or about 25% of its CMA is in the Outaouais region of Quebec.

[OffsideSpecialist]

Originally Posted by BlackEleven

Or Saskatoon. According to that data, it has a larger land area than Calgary, but about 1/5th of the population.

Also interesting to note that Canada's three largest cities, Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver have about quadruple the population density of most other Canadian cities.

I found the high densities of Hamilton and Kitchener-Waterloo-Cambridge quite surprising. Particularly KW because whenever I go there it seems there is a bit of open space between Cambridge and the other two.

[Thunderball]

I find how CMAs are defined to be far too arbitrary. Its absurd that De Winton, Priddis, Heritage Pointe and Okotoks are not counted, because High River, Turner Valley and Cayley may not have enough daily commuters to include the entire MD of Foothills.

Even the Calgary Economic Region/Census Divison 6 seems arbitrary. I kind of suspect Mountain View County has less to do with Calgary than say Strathmore/Wheatland County and Canmore/Bighorn County.

Hell, if we were in the US, Calgary-Red Deer-Edmonton might be a CSA of nearly 3 million... which would be nonsense on the other extreme.

[Cowperson]

It is an interesting to think back to the 60's and 70's when Alberta seemed like such a dustblown backwater and Toronto and Montreal were mythical places of unreachable wonders . . . . and now I rarely think of Toronto while Montreal is virtually invisible and basically irrelevant.

Do you feel the power?

Cowperson

[FlamesAddiction]

By the next census, Calgary and maybe Edmonton will certainly be bigger than Ottawa.

Is that really a good thing though? Serious question for people who grew up in Calgary and live there now... has the population boom really improved the livability of the city?

I don't live in Ottawa, but my wife is from there and we spend a lot of time there and it seems like paradise to me compared to Toronto (where I am now).

Also, completely related but interesting that Guelph has 141,000 people, but almost the same population density as Calgary.

[OffsideSpecialist]

I think Ottawa is quite nice because of the smaller population. I spend a lot of time biking or just hanging out at the parkland areas around a lot of the rivers and the Canal, although I'm sure stuff like that can be found in any big city (this is really the first city I've ever lived in). It's also pretty neat being in the city, yet constantly running into people I know, in all sorts of different places.