Canadian citizenship for baby born in the USA?

[Canada 02]

I'm Canadian, wife is American, and our newborn was born in the USA.

How do I get Canadian citizenship for the little one? Anyone been through the process? TIA

[seattleflamer]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

I'm Canadian, wife is American, and our newborn was born in the USA.

How do I get Canadian citizenship for the little one? Anyone been through the process? TIA

Technically, your newborn is already and will always be Canadian derived from your Canadian citizenship. I assume you weren't born outside Canada either which would have implications?

Now if you want to apply for citizenship certificate as proof, here is the link http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...ons/certif.asp which is all he/she will need in the future to apply for SIN or Canadian passport.

Assuming you're in the States, take advantage of the embassy or Consulate General in your area because they will proof the application and send it to Nova Scotia processing Centre without charging you for shipping the document.

Back in 06, it took about 7 months to get the certificate.


My wife and I are Canadian by birth and naturalized Americans with both kids born in the States so I fretted over this issue with my first born. I even got her a SIN number just cause I'm anal that way. Second one...meh, I'll let him figure it out.

[Mccree]

And your kid is stuck filing US Tax returns for the rest of their life. A lot of folks getting caught by this now.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by Mccree

And your kid is stuck filing US Tax returns for the rest of their life. A lot of folks getting caught by this now.

I have also heard that Canadian citizens, born in the US, will have to have an American passport to get into the US. Is that correct? If so, common sense suggests something should be done about the situation.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Mccree

And your kid is stuck filing US Tax returns for the rest of their life. A lot of folks getting caught by this now.

USA citizenship for the daughter could be a significant tax problem for her and her heirs later in life. Best to look into it.

This is an incredibly onerous issue for unsuspecting people right now.

Cowperson

[nickerjones]

Yeah you have to file income tax but for some reason I think your exempt up to 98k ... Don't quote me as I just think this is number I remember reading .

[Cowperson]

Being a USA citizen, especially an unwitting one who will never live there, is like being in the mafia - its hard to get out once you're in. Best to look at it sooner rather than later..

Cowperson

[redforever]

Originally Posted by seattleflamer;3477161[B

]Technically, your newborn is already and will always be Canadian derived from your Canadian citizenship.[/B] I assume you weren't born outside Canada either which would have implications?

Now if you want to apply for citizenship certificate as proof, here is the link http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...ons/certif.asp which is all he/she will need in the future to apply for SIN or Canadian passport.

Assuming you're in the States, take advantage of the embassy or Consulate General in your area because they will proof the application and send it to Nova Scotia processing Centre without charging you for shipping the document.

Back in 06, it took about 7 months to get the certificate.


My wife and I are Canadian by birth and naturalized Americans with both kids born in the States so I fretted over this issue with my first born. I even got her a SIN number just cause I'm anal that way. Second one...meh, I'll let him figure it out.

I believe this is true only if the father is Canadian. Basically, citizenship follows the father.

If it were reversed, in other words, father American and wife Canadian, the only way to get Canadian citizenship is through immigration.

I have heard (not 100% sure) that the way to get around filing American income tax if you were born in the USA to Canadian citizens, is to declare one citizenship only when you turn of age. In other words, at 18, basically revoke your American citizenship.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by redforever

I believe this is true only if the father is Canadian. Basically, citizenship follows the father.

If it were reversed, in other words, father American and wife Canadian, the only way to get Canadian citizenship is through immigration.

Uhh what? You honestly think someone born to a Canadian mother abroad has to go through the immigration process? What if the mom was on vacation?

Citizenship passes through both sexes; it's not the 1700s any more. In fact, if there ever is a question of biological relation it would be to the father since maternity is (naturally) pretty obvious at the time of birth whereas paternity isn't.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Uhh what? You honestly think someone born to a Canadian mother abroad has to go through the immigration process? What if the mom was on vacation?

Citizenship passes through both sexes; it's not the 1700s any more. In fact, if there ever is a question of biological relation it would be to the father since maternity is (naturally) pretty obvious at the time of birth whereas paternity isn't.

Yes, if the father was American and mother Canadian, and children were born in USA.

I think this was discussed once with Wayne Gretzky. His children, born in the USA, are Canadian as well since he is Canadian and Janet, his wife is American.

If it were reversed and Wayne was American and Janet was Canadian, and the child was born in the USA, then the child could only get Canadian citizenship through immigration.

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by redforever

Yes, if the father was American and mother Canadian, and children were born in USA.

I think this was discussed once with Wayne Gretzky. His children, born in the USA, are Canadian as well since he is Canadian and Janet, his wife is American.

If it were reversed and Wayne was American and Janet was Canadian, and the child was born in the USA, then the child could only get Canadian citizenship through immigration.

No, it is either parent mother or father. From the government web site:

The limitation affects the way people acquire Canadian citizenship outside Canada. It means that, in general, children born outside Canada on or after April 17, 2009, will only be Canadian at birth if they are born to a Canadian parent who was either born in Canada or became a Canadian citizen by immigrating to Canada as a permanent resident and subsequently being granted citizenship (also called naturalization).
The limitation may also affect children adopted by Canadian parents outside Canada, depending on the way in which they obtained, or will obtain, their citizenship. See New Citizenship Law and Adoption and Frequently Asked Questions on Adoption for more information.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...ship/index.asp

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by redforever

Yes, if the father was American and mother Canadian, and children were born in USA.

I think this was discussed once with Wayne Gretzky. His children, born in the USA, are Canadian as well since he is Canadian and Janet, his wife is American.

If it were reversed and Wayne was American and Janet was Canadian, and the child was born in the USA, then the child could only get Canadian citizenship through immigration.

That hasn't been the case in Canada for decades and even then the current rules are retroactive so anyone born in much of the last century would have citizenship passed on from either parent regardless of sex.

In the US it's been in effect even longer and it's been almost 100 years now that mothers alone have been able to pass on citizenship to their children born abroad.

[killer_carlson]

agreed.

I can 100% guarantee that it is available if either parent was born in Canada.

[Mccree]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I have also heard that Canadian citizens, born in the US, will have to have an American passport to get into the US. Is that correct? If so, common sense suggests something should be done about the situation.

I have heard the same thing but I am not sure. We have a lot of clients (some very wealthy ) getting caught by the IRS enforcement of tax filing I'd US citizens living abroad.