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Old 10-15-2011, 02:00 PM   #1
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nice to see the GS2 stack up very well to the iPhone 4S despite being a year older (especially since it's just now finally out in the US market). i give the GS2 camera the edge for clarity and smoothness, and while i was surprised at how good the voice command functionality was (i've never used it on mine) Siri does have a few more features

it'll be interesting to see if Apple can retake the performance crown with the iPhone 5, because it seems like the 4S missed the mark
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you know simulated benchmarks are pretty useless right? besides, i just ran Browsermark on my GS2 and scored 114532, so those numbers seem flawed to begin with. i'll stick with the real world tests
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Also, the Galaxy SII should pull ahead when Ice Cream Sandwich is released as the OS is not optimized for dual core phones.

I'm trying to decide which to go with - S II X (telus) or 4S. Going to hold off on a decision until the Prime and ICS are announced and hope the Prime is coming to Canada sooner rather than later.
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you know simulated benchmarks are pretty useless right? besides, i just ran Browsermark on my GS2 and scored 114532, so those numbers seem flawed to begin with. i'll stick with the real world tests
In what way is an OpenGL benchmark useless? It's either rendering a GL pipeline or its not. Just curious, I really don't care which phone wins since I own neither, so I have no horse in this race.
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Thanks for the vids!

It's nice to see a true competitor for the iPhone, and as an iPhone user now, I think the Galaxy S might have it beat.

Both are beautiful phones and are the elite of the smart phone market.
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:30 PM   #7
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Thanks for the vids!

It's nice to see a true competitor for the iPhone, and as an iPhone user now, I think the Galaxy S might have it beat.

Both are beautiful phones and are the elite of the smart phone market.
I disagree.

From a technical standpoint, I can see the Galaxy having a bit of an edge. But 2 years from now, I highly doubt the Sammy will even have half the resale value.

I have handled the Samsung phones, and they feel cheap and plasticy in comparison.

Plus using the thing looks like you are holding a clipboard to your face.

I will say this though. Nobody can touch the Apple support/warranty. I walked into the Apple store last week, and got a new iPhone, and Nano, when both were damaged admittedly by me. I asked what the repairs would cost, and they handed me two brand new units at no cost. That is what builds customers for life.

Until Android phones get the silky, buttry smooth operation of iOS, they are not even on my radar. They still feel buggier to me.
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I honestly have no idea what all these numbers mean or translate to in my real world daily use. It was the screen size that sold me on the GS2.

Loads faster than my old iPhone 1.0., that's for sure...
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I disagree.

From a technical standpoint, I can see the Galaxy having a bit of an edge. But 2 years from now, I highly doubt the Sammy will even have half the resale value.

I have handled the Samsung phones, and they feel cheap and plasticy in comparison.

Plus using the thing looks like you are holding a clipboard to your face.

I will say this though. Nobody can touch the Apple support/warranty. I walked into the Apple store last week, and got a new iPhone, and Nano, when both were damaged admittedly by me. I asked what the repairs would cost, and they handed me two brand new units at no cost. That is what builds customers for life.

Until Android phones get the silky, buttry smooth operation of iOS, they are not even on my radar. They still feel buggier to me.
The phone isn't that much bigger than the iPhone, as you can see in the video.
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In what way is an OpenGL benchmark useless? It's either rendering a GL pipeline or its not. Just curious, I really don't care which phone wins since I own neither, so I have no horse in this race.
because it's a pure numbers game that don't mean a whole lot to your average user. in that OpenGL benchmark the GS2 scored 42.5 fps. now seeing as how that benchmark will stress a phone's GPU more than any of the actual games out on the market, that means you won't see any noticeable difference in real world performance between the GS2 and the iPhone 4, which the video shows. but since all people see is the iPhone with a better number, that must mean it's the better device. those tests also don't factor in that Android 2.3 Gingerbread wasn't designed with dual core CPU's in mind, i'd be interested to see what the results are when Android 4.0 is release in a few weeks which will be optimized for multithreading

tech review sites like hardocp.com have moved away from synthetic benchmarks like 3DMark because of how subjective they can be. you had video card manufacturers specifically tweaking their drivers so that they would get a better score in one specific test, but didn't improve their real world gaming performance at all. that's why i don't put much stock in these tests, and why i really liked that video showing the two phones side by side being tested under normal use

the GS2 has the more powerful hardware, you can simply look at the specs to see that. what Apple has going for the 4S right now is software optimization because everything is in house. once Google releases the next version of Android that will take advantage of the fancy new hardware out there, that advantage will disappear
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I honestly have no idea what all these numbers mean or translate to in my real world daily use. It was the screen size that sold me on the GS2.

Loads faster than my old iPhone 1.0., that's for sure...
This to me is what matters most. What it boils down to is how the phone helps you do what you want to do. A lot of tablets have stronger numbers than the iPad, but few seem to be deemed as superior devices (I'm only going on product reviews). Numbers are just one piece of a very large puzzle.
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The galaxy and htc are both big pieces of crap. Galaxy looks and feels like cheap, who cares about a screen size, if I need a massive screen I'll get a tablet or carry around a laptop instead of plastering a big piece of drywall too my face.

Galaxy feels like a piece of plastic, looks like it was designed by a child in play school.
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I have handled the Samsung phones, and they feel cheap and plasticy in comparison.
This seems to be a characteristic of Samsung's North American phone models. I have the Samsung Omnia 7 from Europe and it's a very well constructed phone, with an aluminum casing instead of the plastic that the Samsung Focus (the NA version) is fitted with.

Honestly, Android and iOS can go on and on with the penis-measuring contest. Since I've switched to WP7.5, I haven't looked back. I'm on my phone less of the time because it's easier to get things done quickly.
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Tests like this are cool and all, but what allows Apple to outsell any other phone in the world is the ecosystem that surrounds their products.

It's about more than which phone can bring up the settings screen faster, and that's where android misses the point entirely.

If you asked iPhone users why they choose it, very few would say 'It was faster than the other phones I was looking at.'

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The galaxy and htc are both big pieces of crap. Galaxy looks and feels like cheap, who cares about a screen size, if I need a massive screen I'll get a tablet or carry around a laptop instead of plastering a big piece of drywall too my face.

Galaxy feels like a piece of plastic, looks like it was designed by a child in play school.
I have two White 32GB 4S's sitting here in box. I'm going to mail them to Asia (hasn't been released there yet) and sell them for 100% profit and keep my Galaxy. I think all the iPhones are ugly and buying one is conformist.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and one man's art is another man's garbage.

Don't get me wrong, my Galaxy is garbage as well and has terrible ergonomics but all I need is the big screen for reading ebooks and watching videos and for GPS navigation. Also, it was only $50. The premium I would have to pay for an iphone isn't worth it for a smaller screen, no removable battery, and features I wouldn't even use or an ecosystem I wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole because I utterly hate the industrial design and universal look of the iOS user interface which you are stuck with.

That said, all the menus and swiping and multitouch of iOS and OSX are smoother and crisper and easier to use and less buggy than any of the ones I've tried on any other platforms. I won't deny that surfing the net is a joy on safari with multitouch. I just dislike the look of it and the inability to completely modify it to my heart's content.

Anyway, my point is that just because you don't think something looks nice, doesn't invalidate it for everyone else. Same for my opinion.

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Tests like this are cool and all, but what allows Apple to outsell any other phone in the world is the ecosystem that surrounds their products.

It's about more than which phone can bring up the settings screen faster, and that's where android misses the point entirely.

If you asked iPhone users why they choose it, very few would say 'It was faster than the other phones I was looking at.'

No, most would just say because it was made by Apple. In all honestly, the vast majority have no clue why the chose Apple other than that fact.

Edit: I should add, I have owned both. Android is, far and away, the better OS and hardware for me. But I like the idea that I can pretty well do whatever I want to my phone. Iphones are for a totally different group that are content with what Apple feeds them.
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No, most would just say because it was made by Apple. In all honestly, the vast majority have no clue why the chose Apple other than that fact.
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I wonder if iPhone 5 will have widgets.
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For someone who is concerned with actually using a smartphone as a phone, Swype is more than enough reason for me to stay with Android. Until Apple gets a lot tighter about their aps, I'll stay with Android.
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For someone who is concerned with actually using a smartphone as a phone, Swype is more than enough reason for me to stay with Android. Until Apple gets a lot tighter about their aps, I'll stay with Android.
I actually can't stand Swype but maybe it needs getting used to and learning like the first time you learned to txt with a numpad.
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