The District 21 Medical Examiner ruled his death was a homicide because he had been restrained and sprayed with pepper sprayed by law enforcement officers. But to this day, nobody has ever been charged with a crime, and the Lee County State Attorney cleared the sheriff's office of any wrong doing.
Disgusting, Cops abuse the power of Pepper sprays way too much. Makes me sick.
Question to anybody with more information than me: Do cops have to be pepper sprayed in their training before they can be authorized to use it? I know a similar practice occurred with tasers (granted, if it really helps is questionable).
A very common occurrence these days it seems. Cop A assaults citizen B, Cop A faces no disciplinary action. In almost every case of Cops using unnecessary force, they never admit to any wrongdoing. If the suspect had a knife or was causing harm to the officer then I would probably be okay with the use of force.
Question to anybody with more information than me: Do cops have to be pepper sprayed in their training before they can be authorized to use it? I know a similar practice occurred with tasers (granted, if it really helps is questionable).
I don't think it necessarily required, but the majority of departments do. Tasers are not required but some are exposed to it.
Question to anybody with more information than me: Do cops have to be pepper sprayed in their training before they can be authorized to use it? I know a similar practice occurred with tasers (granted, if it really helps is questionable).
Yes. All police officers as well as any law enforcement officers are sprayed during training.
A very common occurrence these days it seems. Cop A assaults citizen B, Cop A faces no disciplinary action. In almost every case of Cops using unnecessary force, they never admit to any wrongdoing. If the suspect had a knife or was causing harm to the officer then I would probably be okay with the use of force.
A very common occurance these days it seems. Poster A posts police brutality video made by some news agency speaking with family members and their attorney about pending civil suit, they never present another side or bother really 'investigating' the allegation. Poster B takes it at face value.
"Even though it was ruled that it was a homicide. A homicide does not necessarily mean that it was a criminal act."
Can someone explain to me on what grounds the above incident wouldn't be considered criminal? i.e. If it can be proven that he was sprayed whilst restrained.
Nobody can defend these actions. Tied up in a chair in prison and pepper sprayed in a democratic first world country? What a joke. I guess America is allowed to bend the laws against prisoners. They openly admit to torturing people overseas so I guess we shouldn't be surprised.
A very common occurance these days it seems. Poster A posts police brutality video made by some news agency speaking with family members and their attorney about pending civil suit, they never present another side or bother really 'investigating' the allegation. Poster B takes it at face value.
Maybe if you were more condescending and rude you would get your point across...
Nothing like those in the position of authority abusing their powers to raise your hackles.
Pretty brutal stuff, but this is the US, not Canada. This kind of stuff doesn't shock me any more coming out of that country. If it were Canada, I'd be more than appalled. In the US, brutality and corruption at various levels in law enforcement seems more common place and almost tolerated to one level or another.
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clearly the person who pepper sprayed a restrained and demented old person who needs meds is a sick and dangerous sadist. and the people who watched and let it happen are just as guilty in my books.
clearly the person who pepper sprayed a restrained and demented old person who needs meds is a sick and dangerous sadist. and the people who watched and let it happen are just as guilty in my books.
They were police . . . committing brutal acts. Not trying to be rude, but what do you think police brutality is?
The easy way out in police brutality cases is to deflect blame to the individual, and to not address or acknowledge the systemic problems themselves.
I would say one of the more obvious of those systemic problems would be the lack of real accountability.
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i said a police brutality "thing". of course its police brutality but i dont see this as a systemic police issue. this is the work of a sadistic lunatic.
i said a police brutality "thing". of course its police brutality but i dont see this as a systemic police issue. this is the work of a sadistic lunatic.
Ah, yes, a police brutality "thing." That makes perfect sense. Very succinct.
Here is an interesting paper done up by the RCMP on the causes and consequences of police brutality (and things):
The notion of what has come to be known as the “bad apple” paradigm has often been used,
especially by senior police officers, as an easy way out when they are called upon to explain
corruption within their organization (Newburn, 1999:15; Kersten, 2000: 241). It is a simplistic
explanation that permits the organization and senior management to blame corruption on
individuals and individual faults – behavioural, psychological, background factors, and so on,
rather than addressing systemic factors.
[ . . . ]
The bad apple idea essentially sees police corruption as a moral failure or a defect of individuals
and hence it becomes treated as an administrative problem (Klockars et al., 2000:1). However,
this explanation is inadequate in terms of the reality of the organizational and occupational
culture of policing in contributing to the development and continuation of corruption(Klockars
et al., 2000:1; Kersten, 2000: 241).
In other words, it is simplistic to think of these officers as being merely sadistic lunatics in a vaccuum, and ignoring the causes of their lunacy, which is in many times and in many ways attributable to their experience and role as a police officer.
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62yr Old Man pepper sprayed to Death.
