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Old 12-05-2011, 12:04 AM   #1
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Jonah Mowry is a 8th grader who has been bullied since the 1st grade. It seems this video has got thousands and thousands of views lately on Youtube. The whole video is about his story through flashcards. Dozens of celebrities including Amanda Bynes, Ricky Martin, Rosie O'Donnell and Justin Timberlake have contacted him. Keep fighting Jonah.


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Some of the comments are pretty bad.

Brutal human beings out there. I have never really understood why some go out of their way and actually try to ruin other people's lives. Why spend time doing that?
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That's a pretty touching and very sad and poignant video.

I hate bullying, but I guess in my day we dealt with them differently, these days bullies are even more cowardly either hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet or behind groups of friends.

I remember not to long ago, that a friend of mind told me that her kid was being bullied and her response was to encourage her kid to be friends with the bully because the bully was lonely. I shook my head and told her that her kid trying to befriend the bully would make things worse. What her kid should do is get one good shot in at the bully and make it so that the bully would understand that her kid could stand on his own two feet and wasn't afraid to fight back.

I would be interested to see what the result of this video is, but my gut tells me that the video could make things worse for this kid unless it rallies local support for him thats not forgotten about when the video fades from memory.
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That was amazingly powerful.

Also, watching the comments on youtube it is amazing at how fast they are scrolling. Being added at 2-4 per second.


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Some of the comments are worse than what you see on the Herald's website.

Brutal human beings out there. I have never really understood why some go out of their way and actually try to ruin other people's lives. Why spend time doing that?
I am almost certain it is a 4chan thing happening right now with those ridiculousness in the comments.
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It's fake. Apparently he trolled everyone.
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I hate to be 'that guy', but this video, kinda contradicts the original one he posted. He states everyone in his school loves him. I get the bullying thing. I went through a couple years of it myself, but I think as per usual, the internet has kinda blown this way out of proportion. Bullying sucks... yes. But every emo kid, that posts some video now, automatically has that video interpreted as a cry for help. Either way, he is doing fine now, as the original video is 4 months old.


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Old 12-05-2011, 12:26 AM   #7
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I hate to be that guy, but this video, kinda contradicts the one he posted. He states everyone in his school loves him. I get the bullying thing. I went through a couple years of it myself, but I think as per usual, the internet has kinda blown this way out of proportion. Bullying sucks... yes. But every emo kid, that posts some video now, automatically has that video interpreted as a cry for help. Either way, he is doing fine now, as the video is 4 months old.

I don't think it was fake. The second video where apparently "he lied", he says everyone at school likes him now and it was 4 months after the original. Could it be that after seeing the 1st video, that people liked him after?

If in fact this was all an act, then that is terrible but I am not sure about that yet.
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I don't think it was fake. The second video where apparently "he lied", he says everyone at school likes him now and it was 4 months after the original. Could it be that after seeing the 1st video, that people liked him after?

If in fact this was all an act, then that is terrible but I am not sure about that yet.
I don't think that it is a total fake. He probably was in a bad place. Hey we all have bad days, weeks and even years sometimes. With how easy it is to splice together a moving video with a moving soundtrack nowadays, it is very easy to put something like this together on a really bad day, and all of a sudden, the whole world is trying to save your life.

If I had the same accessibility to the internet in my dark days, and the ability to instantly speak to the world, I would have had Oprah, Larry King, and Dr. Phil standing at my door trying to save me from my down days..lol. Either way, Jonah seems fine now. And yes, bullying sucks. But at the end of the day, you just have to realize, it will end one day.
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I don't think that it is a total fake. He probably was in a bad place. Hey we all have bad days, weeks and even years sometimes. With how easy it is to splice together a moving video with a moving soundtrack nowadays, it is very easy to put something like this together on a really bad day, and all of a sudden, the whole world is trying to save your life.

If I had the same accessibility to the internet in my dark days, and the ability to instantly speak to the world, I would have had Oprah, Larry King, and Dr. Phil standing at my door trying to save me from my down days..lol. Either way, Jonah seems fine now. And yes, bullying sucks. But at the end of the day, you just have to realize, it will end one day.
Glad you got through what you did.

I will say after seeing that second video, he lost some of my sympathy because he acted really arrogant.
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I hate to be 'that guy', but this video, kinda contradicts the original one he posted. He states everyone in his school loves him. I get the bullying thing. I went through a couple years of it myself, but I think as per usual, the internet has kinda blown this way out of proportion. Bullying sucks... yes. But every emo kid, that posts some video now, automatically has that video interpreted as a cry for help. Either way, he is doing fine now, as the original video is 4 months old.

Fake or not. There's thousands of kids out there who DO feel that way.
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Fake or not. There's thousands of kids out there who DO feel that way.
And there is nothing misleading about that.
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Well then, glad that's resolved, now I don't have to watch either video...
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That kid is a D bag, deserves all the names he brings up in his first video and that has nothing to do with his sexual preference.

Bullying is a sad topic, but this kid is just stirring up trouble. Chewing with his mouth open and saying how everyone loves him? I think he's gonna get knocked back down to reality now.

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That kid is a D bag, deserves all the names he brings up in his first video and that has nothing to do with his sexual preference.

Bullying is a sad topic, but this kid is just stirring up trouble. Chewing with his mouth open and saying how everyone loves him? I think he's gonna get knocked back down to reality now.
Really? In what way does he "deserve" to be bullied? Personally, I didn't experience a lot of bullying, but people that I know who did face a lot of it have never recovered. That's not to say that they can't function as adults, but it is obvious when the subject comes up that the experience continues to have a negative impact on their self-esteem years after the fact.

As for the videos, several people posted it on Facebook and while watching I was a little skeptical. It's hard to explain but the first video struck me as contrived. I understand why people like the message and if it helps anyone out then that's great, but I'm curious if anyone else got the same impression?

Regarding the second video... meh. He's a young teenager who does not appear to be very mature and when his videos are not intricately designed with significant forethought, immature is exactly how he comes off.
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Fake.

He's looking for attention. Nobody who truly cuts themselves for these reasons would admit to it. "I saw them, they're real!". Do you want some sort of badge?

The fact that he uploaded a consolation video and then took it down once people started to watch the original video... he wants people to feel sorry for him.

I feel sorry for the kids who truly do feel this way, but at least when I was at school, I never saw this stuff. School is not an episode of Glee.

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I believe him. Specifically, I believe him when he says he doesn't understand why everyone is bullying him. Most people who are bullied don't know why. They don't quite get yet what makes them annoying, or what they should do to tone down other people's dislike of them. They are disliked for a reason, but this reason isn't immediately obvious, especially to someone in elementary school and Junior High. Often, it takes these kids years to figure out the social behavior that is common knowledge to others. Of course, most of the time their behavior doesn't warrant the level of response they get, but it's not the lovable, sweet, perfectly blameless that are often the ones to bear the brunt of this stuff. Hopefully, they figure out their issues and things get better.

From personal experience, this usually happens around grade 9 and 10. It happens both because the bullies AND the one getting bullied grow up a lot around then.
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Classic case of the internet being used as a soapbox.
Step 1: Get problems
Step 2: Make them important
Step 3: Be the troubled guy who's got important problems

lotsa gay kids out there. I'm sure most are really mixed up inside.
However the reality nobody likes to talk about is: most people enjoy the sensation of self-pity
I do, a good cry is good for you every once in a while, just don't air out your dirty laundry in a public forum. It's really unbecoming.
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While the second video comes across a lot less sympathetic, where he seems to be proud of his scars and he comes across as a little arrogant.

Its my hope that the first video bought some light to his plight and to an extent solved his bullying problem, and not something thats a little more fakey.

I have full sympathy for kids that are bullied and I think it tends to be a little bit more serious today because of the cyberstalking ability of these kids, I also think there's a bit of fail on the adult side in how to deal with bullys.

Frankly and I've said it in my day, when I was getting bullied my old man handled it as an exercise in toughening me up. He taught me that words and understanding didn't work with bullies at all, and that you had to gain a belief in yourself that you're worth standing up for, because frankly no one else will stand up for you if you don't stand up for yourself.

As much as we like to have the Hollywood image as the bully as the tragic figure raised in a tough environment by unloving parents, I rarely saw that growing up. Most of the bullies, and I was bullied for a long time, came from the well off homes, with a mother and father who basically spoiled the crap out of them, gave them a ton of independance and spoiled them rotten.

Frankly whether its hormones, or whatever, the vast majority of kids are mean or rotten to the core.

I dealt with my bullying problem myself with the help of what was really an unsympathetic father, he grew up in a small town where you either made your stand or were crushed, period. It wasn't that he was harsh if I came home bawling after I got pushed around, he was very understanding, but he used it as a lesson in being a man and pushing back. After a while nobody would bully me, because while I didn't go looking for trouble, and I didn't try to build my reputation based around toughness, I did get a reputation for being able to take a punch and laughing, but being a really nasty piece of work if I was crossed.

I don't know about the first video, part of me was thinking it was very tragic and sad and a cry for help, part of me got this weird feeling that it was a bit exagerated and fake. And part of me tought that the video would make him even more of a target.

Just my 2 cents.
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I just watched the second video, and I didn't find it fake or consider him a ###### bag or anything by any means...

As a young kid, who obviously has cut him self, has problems. Kids just dont cut them selves, they also don't just "get better" in four months. He obviously seems a lot happier, but it is easy to hide depression for periods of time, come across happy, hell even be happy, but the depression still looms and can easily be triggered again...

Do you honestly think he made the first video, hoping it would go viral? Hell ive dealt with lots of stuff in my life, and it was hard enough to reach out to friends and family and tell them what was going on. To do it on video and post it online, hell no!

Its sad to see such a young kid in that state of depression in the first video though, and hopefully he gets the help needed, and can truly stay as happy (and as some of you say, conceded) as he is in the second video, then that's awesome in my books.
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