05-26-2005, 04:37 PM
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Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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27 women, and the scary thing is there might be more.
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05-26-2005, 04:48 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I lived about a five minute drive from Pickton's. There are a lot of rumours about what went on and for how long, but most people I've talked to in POCO, including one ex-police officer, seems convinced that the murders were done by more than one person but Pickton agreed to take the fall. According to the ex-officer I know, police were bribed to not pay too much attention at first and that is why they are not even looking for the other killers now.
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05-26-2005, 04:57 PM
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Bribed by who for what purpose?
Giving a bribe would be tatamount to an admission of guilt.
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05-26-2005, 05:08 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally posted by tjinaz@May 26 2005, 10:57 PM
Bribed by who for what purpose?
Giving a bribe would be tatamount to an admission of guilt.
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The Pickton brothers were running an "illegal" afterhours club on their property that was frequented by Hell's Angels. I don't know if the Pickton's themselves were Hell's Angels members, but the rumours around town are that some of the Hell's Angels were making snuff films on the property. I know for a fact that police officers and even the mayor of Port Coquitlam have partied there afterhours. It was no secret that bikers were there all the time. I used to see them around there all the time.
Hell's Angels bribing police to "look the other way" is nothing new. I'm not saying for sure that this is what was happening, but many people in PoCo do talk about it and believe it to be the case.
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05-26-2005, 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by FlamesAddiction@May 26 2005, 04:48 PM
I lived about a five minute drive from Pickton's. There are a lot of rumours about what went on and for how long, but most people I've talked to in POCO, including one ex-police officer, seems convinced that the murders were done by more than one person but Pickton agreed to take the fall. According to the ex-officer I know, police were bribed to not pay too much attention at first and that is why they are not even looking for the other killers now.
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That is a pretty big conspiracy theory as far as I'm concerned. I don't see police services taking such a big risk. The repercussions of pulling such an elaborate stunt like this are enormous.
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05-26-2005, 06:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by FlamesAddiction@May 26 2005, 10:48 PM
I lived about a five minute drive from Pickton's. There are a lot of rumours about what went on and for how long, but most people I've talked to in POCO, including one ex-police officer, seems convinced that the murders were done by more than one person but Pickton agreed to take the fall. According to the ex-officer I know, police were bribed to not pay too much attention at first and that is why they are not even looking for the other killers now.
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I believe that the murders were done by more then one person, his brother lived on the farm with him, and it would be pretty hard to hide the fact that your butchering hookers and burying them on the farm from your roomie.
And in the current rage by the police to go after bikers gangs like the Hell's Angels and such there's no way a cop or a mayer would risk thier careers in accepting bribes to cover this up.
No Disrespect FA, but its speculation and rumor, and I'm not really going to buy it unless something really solid comes up.
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05-26-2005, 06:46 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I'm just telling you what the word on the street is, I'm not asking you to buy it.
Although I am pretty sure there is a lot more to the story than what the authorities are coughing up. They also found many videos but haven't commented on them yet. That was when I still lived there, so almost 2 years ago.
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05-26-2005, 06:55 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Originally posted by FlamesAddiction@May 26 2005, 06:46 PM
I'm just telling you what the word on the street is, I'm not asking you to buy it.
Although I am pretty sure there is a lot more to the story than what the authorities are coughing up. They also found many videos but haven't commented on them yet. That was when I still lived there, so almost 2 years ago.
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Who are you, T99? Keep your conjecture and rumormongering to yourself you ingrate!
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05-26-2005, 07:18 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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If it means anything to you, here are some sources that talk about the parties and even mention the mayor as a patron:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers...n/6.html?sect=2
One paragraph that stands out:
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Other charges filed against Robert Pickton were more serious. In March 1997 he was charged with the attempted murder of a drug-addicted prostitute, Wendy Lynn Eistetter, whom he stabbed several times in a wild melee at the pig farm. Eistetter told police that Pickton handcuffed and attacked her on March 23, but that she escaped after disarming him and stabbing him with his own knife. A motorist found Eistetter beside the highway at 1:45 a.m. and took her to the nearest emergency room, while Pickton sought treatment for a single stab wound at Eagle Ridge Hospital. He was released on $2,000 bond, but the charge was later dismissed without explanation in January 1998.
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Maybe it's just me, but that sounds a little odd, no?
http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2003...s_palace.shtml
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It's common knowledge that Robert Pickton was, by the mid-'90s, no longer a serious commercial pig farmer. He was a wealthy man. Raising hogs now was more of a hobby.He bought the pigs, fattened them, and sold the meat to friends, or roasted them for the bikers, prostitutes, mayors, and Little Leaguers who partied at Piggy's Palace. The entire city of Port Coquitlam (pop. 53,000), it seemed, was feeding on pigs that had been fed by the suspected serial killer Robert Pickton.
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http://www.missingpeople.net/some_things_you_didn.htm
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The farm has been well known to local residents.
The city of Port Coquitlam went to court in 1996 seeking an order against Dave and Willy Pickton and their "Piggy Palace Good Times Society" to bar them from holding large parties on their nearby Burns Road property. The parties attracted a variety of people, from a group of graduating students to a school trustee who would later become mayor.
The Picktons filed a statement of defence saying the parties were for "sports organizations or other worthy groups." Nevertheless, the brothers were barred on Dec. 31, 1998, from using their property, zoned for agricultural use, for large bashes.
The parties, apparently, continued. But the public eye didn't really fall on the Pickton properties until Feb. 6, 2002, when the RCMP sealed off the four-hectare (10-acre) pig farm.
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Bill Hiscox, who worked for Pickton in 1997 and 1998, said in an interview he told police in 1998 that he had concerns about the farm.
But Vancouver police ran into conflict with the RCMP, which has jurisdiction over the farm. Efforts to get a wiretap on the case failed and the investigation stalled, police sources said.
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There is still a publication ban, so I guess the whole story will not be know for sometime.
Something really gross that I think about is that my sister and her husband had purshased pig meat through a mutual friend of the Pickton's, so there is also a good chance that I have also eaten some of it since I stayed there for a while.
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05-26-2005, 07:29 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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That publication ban thingy is awesome. It sucks for curiosity of course, but I sure wish they'd use that down here in high profile cases.
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