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Old 11-09-2011, 09:14 AM   #1
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I'm not sure exactly what the red flower that I see Canadian's and British wear. Is it for memorial for the troops?

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Old 11-09-2011, 09:15 AM   #2
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It's a poppy, which is a symbol of the sacrifice made by our forces during the various conflicts. It's orgins are from WW1 and this poem.

by John McCrae, May 1915
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_poppy
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:18 AM   #4
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It's supposed to be a poppy, for Remembrance Day to remember the troops. Its from a poem that a Canadian soldier wrote during WWI called "In Flanders Fields" after witnessing the death of his friend, as the battlefield they were on (in Flanders) was covered with poppies.

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place: and in the sky
The larks still bravely singing fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead: Short days ago,
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved: and now we lie
In Flanders fields!
Take up our quarrel with the foe
To you, from failing hands, we throw
The torch: be yours to hold it high
If ye break faith with us who die,
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields
Composed at the battlefront on May 3, 1915
during the second battle of Ypres, Belgium

EDIT: Beaten to it. Won't erase it though, that'd be sacrilicious.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:25 AM   #5
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It's the commonweath symbol for rememberence of those who died during wars.

TVtropes actually puts up an interesting read on the subject.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThePoppy
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It's cool that they came out with the stickers for the little ones that pins wouldn't be safe for.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:31 AM   #7
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There was a scene in Boardwalk Empire where they were having a ceremony for Vets of WWI and everyone was wearing a red poppy. American's at one point must have worn them as well.

Edit: From the Wiki:
In the United States, the American Legion distributes crepe-paper poppies in exchange for contributions. "Poppy Day" is usually the same as or near Memorial Day in May.[31] However, many Legion groups also make poppies available around 11 November.

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It's supposed to be a poppy, for Remembrance Day to remember the troops. Its from a poem that a Canadian soldier wrote during WWI called "In Flanders Fields" after witnessing the death of his friend, as the battlefield they were on (in Flanders) was covered with poppies.

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place: and in the sky
The larks still bravely singing fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead: Short days ago,
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved: and now we lie
In Flanders fields!
Take up our quarrel with the foe
To you, from failing hands, we throw
The torch: be yours to hold it high
If ye break faith with us who die,
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields
Composed at the battlefront on May 3, 1915
during the second battle of Ypres, Belgium

EDIT: Beaten to it. Won't erase it though, that'd be sacrilicious.
Not to be an ass in this thread, but 'sacrelicious' looks like a cross between sacrilege and delicious. In this case you just say that would be sacrilege.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:37 AM   #9
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Final scene of Blackadder Goes Forth with Rowan Atkinson and Hugh Laurie and the Poppy Field at the end.

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It's cool that they came out with the stickers for the little ones that pins wouldn't be safe for.

Those pins aren't safe for anyone! I have no idea what my problem is with those things but I must buy a dozen or so each year. I'll lose about a litre of blood each week as I will always stab myself with one regardless of where I put it and man, unless there is some technique I'm not aware of, it will be missing within an hour or so of putting it on.
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The practice of wearing a poppy to remember fallen soldiers is primarily only done in British Commonwealth countries these days, but the idea was first proposed by an American.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15637074

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Moina Michael (August 15, 1869-May 10, 1944) was a U.S. professor and humanitarian who conceived the idea of using poppies as a symbol of remembrance for those who served in World War I.

Born in Good Hope, Georgia, Michael was educated at Lucy Cobb Institute and Georgia State Teachers College, both located in Athens, Georgia, and Columbia University in New York City. She was a professor at the University of Georgia when the U.S. entered World War I. She took a leave of absence from her work and volunteered to assist in the New York-based training headquarters for overseas YWCA workers.[1]

Inspired by the Canadian John McCrae battlefront-theme poem In Flanders Fields, she published a poem in response called We Shall Keep the Faith.[1] In tribute to the opening lines of McCrae's poem -- "In Flanders fields the poppies blow / Between the crosses row on row," -- Michael vowed to always wear a red poppy as a symbol of remembrance for those who served in the war.[2]

After the war was over, Michael returned to the University of Georgia and taught a class of disabled servicemen. Realizing the need to provide financial and occupational support for these servicemen, she pursued the idea of selling silk poppies as a means of raising funds to assist disabled veterans. In 1921, her efforts resulted in the poppy being adopted as a symbol of remembrance for war veterans by the American Legion Auxiliary.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moina_Michael

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Not to be an ass in this thread, but 'sacrelicious' looks like a cross between sacrilege and delicious. In this case you just say that would be sacrilege.
"Sacrelicious" comes from The Simpsons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUnH9NECSUU
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Those pins aren't safe for anyone! I have no idea what my problem is with those things but I must buy a dozen or so each year. I'll lose about a litre of blood each week as I will always stab myself with one regardless of where I put it and man, unless there is some technique I'm not aware of, it will be missing within an hour or so of putting it on.
I have the same problem, but I figure a few needle pricks and buying a few extra poppies is a pretty small sacrifice compared to what the war veterans made.
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Not to be an ass in this thread, but 'sacrelicious' looks like a cross between sacrilege and delicious. In this case you just say that would be sacrilege.
Thats exactly what it is, old Simpsons reference.

EDIT: I see MarchHare already covered it for me.
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I lucked out this year. After I lost my first two poppies, I rememberd that I got a poppy pin from the Canadian Forces at the Calgary Stampede. I'm using it to ensure the poppy stays on my clothing, and it's a nice pin as well.
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Those pins aren't safe for anyone! I have no idea what my problem is with those things but I must buy a dozen or so each year. I'll lose about a litre of blood each week as I will always stab myself with one regardless of where I put it and man, unless there is some technique I'm not aware of, it will be missing within an hour or so of putting it on.
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I have the same problem, but I figure a few needle pricks and buying a few extra poppies is a pretty small sacrifice compared to what the war veterans made.
Little tip, after sticking the pin through your coat (or whatever) stick the pin through the very edge of the poppy as well, it will hold it in place. I also take a pair of snips and cut the point off the pin so I don't stab myself.
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Little tip, after sticking the pin through your coat (or whatever) stick the pin through the very edge of the poppy as well, it will hold it in place. I also take a pair of snips and cut the point off the pin so I don't stab myself.
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Figures as I ask this there is someone from Veterans affairs walking around on campus passing out some.


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Pansy. Live life on the edge. Keep the tip on.
Ya, maybe its just my extreme history-nerdness coming out, but I actually don't care when I get stabbed by it. To me its a reminder of the pain they went through. Whenever I feel that sharp point stab me, that's what I think of.
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The practice of wearing a poppy to remember fallen soldiers is primarily only done in British Commonwealth countries these days, but the idea was first proposed by an American.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15637074



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moina_Michael
Which makes that scene in Boardwalk Empire inaccurate. C'mon Scorcese!
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