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Old 09-14-2011, 10:12 AM   #1
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In his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech, Michael Moore denounced President Bush and the invasion of Iraq. Overnight he became the most hated man in America. In an exclusive extract from his new book, Here Comes Trouble, he tells of the bomb threats, bodyguards and how he fought back.

• In Nashville, a man with a knife leapt up on the stage and started coming toward me. The Seal grabbed him from behind by his belt loop and collar and slung him off the front of the stage to the cement floor below. Someone had to mop up the blood after the Seals took him away.


Good article on MM and what he went through after his infamous Oscar speech. Quite the read.

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As much as I like Moore as a filmmaker, he's been just as much (and sometimes worse) of an assailant on civil discourse as some of the blowhards on the far right.
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He has nothing to worry about, I still hate his fat bluberous ass and his comedies are subpar.
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I dunno... was he niave to think that saying controversial things was going to make him loved by all?

I think Saul Alinsky had it right. Saul was a white Jewish man who worked with the impoverished black community in Chicago for their civil rights and for an improved economic situation. He was a community organizer from the 1930s to the 1970s when he passed away. He knew he was fighting the establishment. He knew he was standing up for a minority and fighting the majority. He knew the consequences of standing up for the things he believed in. But he used that to re-empower himself. His attitude was along the lines of: "They wouldn't come after me.. they wouldn't attack me with such ferocity.. if I wasn't being effective. The more effective you are at creating change, the more you put yourself in the line of fire. So if you are getting death threats or people attacking you physically, it means you are doing a good job. If they are ignoring you, you must not be doing a good job of creating change."
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Moore's career died when the Bush presidency died.
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Moore's career died when the Bush presidency died.
Yeah, his whole raison d'etre (or however people who know French spell it) disappeared when the black "socialist" turned out to be pretty much the same as the last guy.
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He has nothing to worry about, I still hate his fat bluberous ass and his comedies are subpar.
You take that back, Canadian Bacon is a gem!





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Yeah, his whole raison d'etre (or however people who know French spell it) disappeared when the black "socialist" turned out to be pretty much the same as the last guy.
I've heard him on Bill Maher's "Real Time" and he has been nothing but critical of Obama and has hammered him over and over again. He actually feels betrayed by the Democratic party. I think his raison d'être is more important now than when Bush was in office.
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I've heard him on Bill Maher's "Real Time" and he has been nothing but critical of Obama and has hammered him over and over again. He actually feels betrayed by the Democratic party. I think his raison d'être is more important now than when Bush was in office.
Yeah, but he seems to have lost his joie de vivre.
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Michael Moore believes he's much more important than he really is. He had his 15 minutes of fame now he can co-habitate with the rest of the D-List celebrities.
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Did I read that excerpt right? Did he slim down? For shame, no more of this?



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Moore is a textbook narcissist.
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Moore is fairly similar to Ann Coulter, they just use different mediums

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I think a lot of people just resented that Moore couldn't just let it rest when he won, but instead he had turn it political. I actually think Moore had some pretty good points regarding the Bush administration and the invasion of Iraq, but no one wants to hear about all the time. Just take your award, say your thanks, and move on.
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I have to disagree with the Ann Coulter comparison or the Rush Limbaugh comparison. When did either of them lambast Bush the way that Moore is doing to Obama?

I disagree with the awards controversy.... I hate watching awards shows because it's all the same crap. "I thank you, I thank God, I thank my Mom, I thank my producer, blah, blah, blah". Hell, if someone gave *ME* four minutes where I could talk to the world I would NOT spend it saying thank you - I'd use it to speak on a topic dear to my heart.
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Did I read that excerpt right? Did he slim down?
He is still very big, but he is trying to lose weight. He has been trying those weight loss camps.
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I disagree with the awards controversy.... I hate watching awards shows because it's all the same crap. "I thank you, I thank God, I thank my Mom, I thank my producer, blah, blah, blah". Hell, if someone gave *ME* four minutes where I could talk to the world I would NOT spend it saying thank you - I'd use it to speak on a topic dear to my heart.

That's not what award ceremony podium time is for. He should have boycotted the ceremony and held a press meet or something if that is how he felt.

There is nothing wrong with standing by your conviction, but you don't need to step on everyone's toes while doing it. A little bit of class goes a long way.
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So he lambastes G Bush for fighting a ridiculous war, which it is/was, and because of this he deserves to get death threats, attempts at his life, threats against family, public vitriol by Republican news makers and suggestions on air that he be killed? Of course that all makes sense to me?
Whatever happened to the land of the free, all for saying this...

I had asked the nominees from the other documentary films to join me on the stage in case I won, and they did. The ovation finally ended, and then I spoke: "I've invited my fellow documentary nominees on the stage with us. They are here in solidarity with me because we like non-fiction. We like non-fiction, yet we live in fictitious times. We live in a time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. Whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts: we are against this war, Mr Bush. Shame on you, Mr Bush. Shame on you! And anytime you've got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up! Thank you very much."


BS on the comparisons to Anne Coulter or any of the other RW hacks.
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Moore isn't like Ann because of his speach, he's like Ann because they think people who are on opposite ends of the political spectrum are evil bad people who want to destroy the world.
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So he lambastes G Bush for fighting a ridiculous war, which it is/was, and because of this he deserves to get death threats, attempts at his life, threats against family, public vitriol by Republican news makers and suggestions on air that he be killed? Of course that all makes sense to me?
Whatever happened to the land of the free, all for saying this...

I had asked the nominees from the other documentary films to join me on the stage in case I won, and they did. The ovation finally ended, and then I spoke: "I've invited my fellow documentary nominees on the stage with us. They are here in solidarity with me because we like non-fiction. We like non-fiction, yet we live in fictitious times. We live in a time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. Whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts: we are against this war, Mr Bush. Shame on you, Mr Bush. Shame on you! And anytime you've got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up! Thank you very much."


BS on the comparisons to Anne Coulter or any of the other RW hacks.
The old GWB stole the election BS is what would cause me to boo, and have me ignore the rest of the garbage coming from his jiggling jowls.

Not to mention an awards ceremony is not a soapbox. Save it for The Daily Show.
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